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Unread 01-02-2005, 02:04 AM   #1
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The History of Tile

Anybody know of a timeline related to tile and such? I read various places that this came into the tile trade at such and such time but I've never seen an actual time line or history. I'm sure JB could give a personal account of the last 100 years or so, but I was thinking more like something written. Any idea's?
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Unread 01-02-2005, 06:26 AM   #2
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Here, read up.


http://www.tileusa.com/historysp.htm

http://www.designboom.com/history/tiles_history.html

http://www2002.stoke.gov.uk/museums/...e/gpminf25.htm
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Unread 01-02-2005, 06:26 AM   #3
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I vote you research it,write it up and submit it for approval and editing by cx (kelly)

You probobly wont have to go much further back than the Phonecians unless you do mosaics in which case far eastern history's going to rival the Phonecian timeline i'm sure

What i am really curious about is the standing around philosophy and when it was first introduced as an actual technique in the trade.
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Unread 01-02-2005, 09:10 AM   #4
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Todd, I can give you a time-line on the "standing around" philosophy. For me, it was about mid Oct/04.

I've added an addtional "marketable" feature to this integral, and time-honored tile technique.

I also hold a sign..............WILL TILE FOR FOOD!
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Unread 01-02-2005, 09:30 AM   #5
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WILL TILE FOR FOOD!
Wow! Those "right to work" states have really got it bad. I would have thought that the "Standing Around Technique" was first introduced very early in the timeline of tile? I imagine the process would have gone a little like this:
"Damn the far-flung Gods of these dusty shores, but my knees are killing me", said the slave-artisan of Sumer
"Get back to work on that floor,... before I beat you again. And make sure those corners are lined up, Slacker! We're running out of time before the mosoleum is sealed up and I've got a date tonight.", repeated the slave-artisan's overlord while leaning against a pillar and sipping on a tankard of fermented barley-water.
"Why don't you get down here and show me how it's done then, Mr. I'm-too-special-to lift-my-tunic-and-break-a-sweat?", the slave-artisan breathed to himself as he bent back down to the floor laid out before him.
"Because," grinned the overlord menacingly, "I'm the boss! That's why."

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Unread 01-02-2005, 10:50 AM   #6
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Now thats what I'm talking about! A story that provides "some great visuals" too! LOL!!!
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Unread 01-02-2005, 06:01 PM   #7
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Muley, I provided a brief history of the trade (somewhat stylized) in both my books. It started in pre-history, and no, I wasn't there. Flatfloor told me about it.

I'm very proud to have been the first one to write down and publish the "standing around" philosophy. Did it in 1992. I think, though, it's one of those oral traditions some modern historians talk about. The standing around idea as well dates to pre-history -- way before Shaughnn's rendition.

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Unread 01-02-2005, 06:09 PM   #8
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John,
I can only offer a version from the "organized labor" perspective. Independants and jacklegs alike have been slapping burnt mud on stuff to make it pretty much longer than there have been either "prevailing wage" or compulsory arbitration.
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Unread 01-02-2005, 08:33 PM   #9
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Muley, I provided a brief history of the trade (somewhat stylized) in both my books. It started in pre-history, and no, I wasn't there. Flatfloor told me about it.

I'm very proud to have been the first one to write down and publish the "standing around" philosophy. Did it in 1992. I think, though, it's one of those oral traditions some modern historians talk about. The standing around idea as well dates to pre-history -- way before Shaughnn's rendition.
Always tryin to sale them books arncha? Ok, I'll bite. I'll read it then give it to my helper for his birthday, think he'll notice the mud stained pages? Actually, I'm not convinced he knows how to read, at least not instructions anyway. He can sure tell time though, Starts the 5 o'clock countdown about 3:30 every day.
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talking about tilework in mausoleums........

My old helper and I have joked about how we'll have to be buried with our margin trowels because we can't live without them!
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Good one shaugnn
Muley,you havent read Johns books???he's actually a pretty funny guy

I use em as training manuals
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Unread 01-03-2005, 06:45 AM   #12
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Look...........
everybody knows that tiles did not exist until they were introduced in MS Windows. Whatever you guys were doing before that wasn't tiling. Could it have been Dossing?
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Unread 01-03-2005, 12:18 PM   #13
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One of the best pieces on the history of tile I have read was published in "The Ceramic Tile Manual". It was a published for The Ceramic Tile Institute in Los Angeles, and published by Building News, Inc. in Los Angeles. I have the 1986 edition, and it is still a great reference. I don't know whether subsequent editions have ever been published. The article is broken up into the following sections with the authors name.

Tile Through the Ages by Michele Bialy CTC

Tile in Antiquity Early Mesopotamian-Egyptian and Turkish by Darlene Hale CTC

Early Tiles in France, Germany, the Netherlands and Switzerland

Tiles of Spain and Portugal

Renaissance and Humanism Reflected in Italian Tiles

Hopi Indian Tiles by Jay McCandless CTC

The Batchelder Tile Collection

The History of Tile in the United States by George N. Lavenberg FCSI

If you look at the Editorial Advisory Committee on page 2, there are a lot of names of people we should all say a thank you to in our thoughts, as they were a hardworking group who's efforts contributed to greatly expanding the tile business in the US.

On another note...

Dos-ing wasn't bad, I still keep a copy of DOS for Dummies nearby. Can't remember all of those damned command lines, but that DIR/P and DEL command is still a big help to go in and kill spyware and other little resource hogs that can't be deleted while windoze is running.

Anyone ever use CPM?

And would anyone care to offer their thoughts as to what single program (program, not operating system) helped launch the widespread use of the desktop computer?

An accounting type once told me it was VisiCalc. He stated that once the bean counters saw what they could do with that spreadsheet program, and the efficiencies it created, they were sold. Without it, he said that they say early PC as overpriced typewriters, and they would have never approved the expenditures.

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Unread 01-03-2005, 06:43 PM   #14
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Chris,
My copy is from the 1986 printing also. I kinga certain that this was the only edition. I picked up my copy at a garage sale years ago, but I think there are occasionally copies at Alibris.com. My copy once belonged to a local mosaicist whom I became acquainted with years later. It's a very small world indeed.
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Unread 01-03-2005, 07:10 PM   #15
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The Tile Setter's Manual used to be published periodically. I remember having a copy back in the mid-seventies. It's my understanding that it will not be re-published. Too much of a money drain for CTIOA as I understand it.
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