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Unread 07-29-2011, 11:34 AM   #1
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The Stiles bathroom remodel

Hello all, I'm new to the forum but have picked up a lot good info, please bare with me on my posting, if I flub up let me know. Anyway what I have is a small bath remodel job. I removed a fiberglass tub/shower enclosure and have installed a Kohler cast iron tub and plan on doing a porcelain surround. When I installed the new tub it was a little shorter than the existing one so I had to cut shims and install on the 2X4's to get the gypsum board out past the tile lip on the tub. I also intend to use the Kerdi membrane on the enclosure walls. All this is working out OK but when I shimmed the wallboard out to accommodate the tub I have a half inch offset where the new wallboard meets the old wall, this is only on one side. The tub drain end of the wall has a offset built into the bath to accommodate the plumbing and the wallboard comes out to a outside corner, this one I could just put a corner guard up and re-mud the sheet rock. I'm looking for suggestions on how to make the transition between the two wall boards. I though about just hanging a couple sheets of new sheet rock to bring the existing wall out to the new tub surround but this is a lot of extra work and I'm not the greatest on sheet rock finishing. One other thing, I purchased Karaset unmodifiable quickset from Lowes for installing the Kerdi membrane, is this a OK choice or do I need something better?

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Unread 07-29-2011, 01:01 PM   #2
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Cant help you with drywall idea, but I can say that most will tell you not to use the Keraset as it is a lower grade dry-set mortar. I had struggled on past projects to find a good dry-set and settled on some versabond from HD. But for my latest project, I asked my local Lowes if they could special order Kerabond and they did. Took about 7 days to arrive at the store. No extra shipping cost, but it did cost me $25/bag for 2 bags. I felt it was well worth the trouble and cost.
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Welcome, Stiles.

I'd tile out to that offset and cover it with some sorta ceramic or stone trim piece that compliments my installation and call it a feature.

What Darrell said about the mortar.

My opinion; worth price charged.
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Unread 07-29-2011, 06:30 PM   #4
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Thanks, I will try and get the Kerabond, it will be worth the extra money I plan on this being done right. Do you recommend the Kerabond to set the ceramic tiles on the Kerdi also? I plan on using a 12" x 12" tile.
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Unread 07-29-2011, 06:49 PM   #5
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I just read a data sheet on the Kerabond and it says not to use it on gypsum wall board unless they are primed with Primer G, Primer S or Mapeprim SP. Is this the recommendation? IF so I will need to pick up the primer also.

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Always amazes me when the manufacturer's publish very different instructions and requirements for the same product here and in Europe. looks like you got the European version (ISO), which I've never seen.

My first clue was when you were told to mix with Isolastic, rather than our familiar Keralastic, in cases where we'd want a modified thinset mortar. Then I noticed the references to it as meeting C1 rather than A118.1.

It's all so fun, eh?

Here's the version to which I'm more accustomed: kerabond

I've never seen a requirement to prime paper-faced gypsum board before use of any thinset mortar, but I been wrong before. You, being in Mississippi, I suppose you could use either set of instructions, y'all not really bein' part of any known country, eh?

I, being in the proud Republic of Texas, would lean toward the USofA version of their instructions. 'Specially since they fit better with what I've always tole folks was the appropriate thing to do, and all.

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Unread 07-29-2011, 09:43 PM   #7
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Carefull there CX, you kinda gettin personal, we do consider ourselves US citizens even though we all is barefooted. But thanks for getting me on the right track, this being my first indoor toilet I need to do it right ya hear?
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Im in the process of installing my Kerdi membrane and do not know which way to turn the Kerdi seals for the piping and shower handle, I cannot find a closeup photo of a installation and there are no instructions with the seals.
Will the long lip go to the inside or outside
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Wendy, I am sorry but I had to laugh at your comment!
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And I'm guessing from your comment that you have a dirty mind.
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Yeah, it is clean for about 15 minutes a day on average....
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When I start setting the tile on this project I know to do the back wall first, but on the sides do I start at the edge of my drywall, set the boarder tiles and work to the back wall, making my cut at the rear of the tub surround? I am using 12" x 12" porcelain with the matching 3" x 12" boarder.
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1- Measure a lot.

2- Start wherever you need to to get the job perfectly aligned with the tiles that need to be in specific places.

3- Measure again.

4- Consider doing one or 2 or 3 horizontal rows all around the bath / shower at a time, so the horizontal grout line stay on point. Its easy to get the horizontal grout joints out of what if you do one wall at a time.

5- Measure some more

6- Make a story pole as pictured below and measure from there. Use the same spacers as in real life.
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