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Unread 05-15-2019, 12:25 PM   #16
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As soon as I hit the 'reply' button I immediately thought about scrapping the current mud pan plan and going with the noble/kerdi approach. I'm not worried about the cost of either method so I'll probably select whichever appears to be more dummy proof with my (lack of) experience.
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Unread 05-15-2019, 12:47 PM   #17
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http://noblecompany.com/resources/ca...e-installation

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Unread 05-15-2019, 01:03 PM   #18
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another option is Probase..pre-waterproofed, pre sloped!!
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Unread 05-15-2019, 03:03 PM   #19
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e3 - the thin bed shower install in the link provided looks too good to be true!!

Noble shows a couple retailers fairly close that I'll try and pop into soon. Starting from the subfloor I believe I need the following:

- Felt/tar paper*
- Lathe (already have)
- Drain flashing tool or template. If the tool is not economical for a single use, build mud pan to 1.5" with 1/4" per foot
- Inside corners (already have outside corners)
- Noble 150
- Nobleflex Drain flashing
- Noble TS
- Weep protector

Installation seems pretty straight forward but I'm sure I am missing something.

*I would love an alternative to avoid purchasing large roll that I won't use again.
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Unread 05-15-2019, 03:13 PM   #20
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Cut up a large plastic trash bag and staple it down. It’ll serve as a slip sheet.
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Unread 05-15-2019, 03:27 PM   #21
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We also sell cut roll on line.
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Unread 05-15-2019, 03:30 PM   #22
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Trash bag I can certainly do. Would Tyvek housewrap serve any practical use?
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Unread 05-15-2019, 04:09 PM   #23
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Couldn’t say about Tyvek. For trash bag use 3- or 4-mil thickness.
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Unread 05-15-2019, 04:09 PM   #24
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For what it's worth, I would scrap the TS and purchase their ValueSeal. TS is a great product but is overkill for your application. ValueSeal is more of a Kerdi competitor. It's thinner and easier to fold and seam. Value Seal is what I am using in the photo that I posted although the color has changed since.

Then I would forego the inside corners and just cut and fold the membrane but that's just me. I seal all the seams and cuts with their sealant including around the drain. Depending on the size of your shower you may decide to purchase their 6ft wide material as opposed to the 3ft.

Additionally, Noble has an online store that you can order from and get all the parts. The foam template is not expensive and quite handy to use.

Finally, if I had Tyvek laying around that I was never going to use then I would use it over the subfloor and staple the lath over it for the mud bed.
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Nathan the only purpose of the felt paper or plastic is to keep the subfloor from drawing the moisture out of the mud prematurely. Pretty much anything that will serve that purpose will work.

I was thinking that Tyvek was a breathable material, so if it won't shed water, it may not work. I can't say for sure. Pretty much any plastic will work, it doesn't have to be bullet proof.
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Unread 05-15-2019, 05:43 PM   #26
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Thanks all. I have a renewed sense of confidence. I wish I didn’t just focus in on the traditional 3 piece drain and mud pan as this will be exponentially easier for me. Oh well lesson learned and <$70 mistake.
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Pretty Easy.

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Why, Mr. Eric, you're fixin' to be as famous as Hollywood Broussard you keep makin' those videos!
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That one’s actually several years old, but a lot of people do say I look a lot like George Clooney and Brad Pitt !

It was also pointed out that I use the word basically a lot which I think is basically bullshit .
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