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Unread 02-06-2005, 01:41 PM   #1
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slab closet flange problem

Hello all,

I've been reading this forum for a long time - even bought a Felker TM-75 over a year ago anticipating tile work I wanted to do. Unfortunately, other construction projects delayed those plans and the saw is still in the box And yes, I've had and read the new JB book too - autographed and everything!

I am now ready to get back to where I was then. There is still a lot of work to be done before tiling, but have several problems to deal with. One of which is trying to install a closet flange on a slab opening. I've attached a picture below. The DWV pipe is 4" (almost) and appears to be ABS (kind of a black color). It appears as though mortar or some sort of aggregate cement product was packed around the flange and lead anchors installed. The wax ring and toilet were simply set on top of the slab and the toilet was fastened to the lead anchors (no flange). When I got here the anchors were corroded and things didn't didn't seat well at all

The floor has several layers of stuff on it. One layer of what appears to be cutback glued tile, then stick-on tile, then topped off with crummy sheet vinyl. Having consulted the liberry, I can apparently remove all of this material, scrape as clean as possible, and use a modified thinset to put down ceramic tile.

But, I need to deal with the closet flange issue. I obviously want to use a real flange - preferrably an all plastic one and avoid use of lead anchors. I have heard about slip-over flanges but wonder how to chip out or otherwise clean out the area around the DWV pipe in order to slip a flange over the
DVW? I know such a product is available for PVC, but what about ABS as this appears to be ??

I am totally impressed with the wealth of information this forum provides, and the terrific DIY projects I've seen people accomplish with the help of you folks.

Thanks.
Charlie

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Unread 02-06-2005, 03:27 PM   #2
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Hi Charlie, welcome. There's a pvc closet flange that will slip into the 4" hole. It has a rubber boot on the bottom that gets tightened with an allen key. You will have to drill into the concrete to fasten it too. Lonnie the plumber will know what it's called. You should be able to find one at Menards or Home Depot.
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Unread 02-06-2005, 04:25 PM   #3
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Hi Charlie.

Just a quick fly-by to welcome you to our TYW one stop tile, plumbing, framing, and at times even Musky fishing and VW repair Forum.

Seriously, glad you took the time to register and from here it looks like our friend and premier Musky guide from the northlands has pointed you in the right direction.
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Unread 02-06-2005, 05:13 PM   #4
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Mike and Mike,

Thank you for the welcome and the advice on the slip-in vs. slip-over flange.

I think I have seen those things. Is there a downside to them in terms of flow since the inside diameter is reduced ?

I also assume dimension or otherwise, there are no issues with an ABS pipe and a PVC flange ?

I love fishin but never got into muskie. Flyfishin for trout is my favorite mostly cause I get lots-o-exercise with it - especially on Western rivers - and don't usually bump into another soul - just river, sky and fish

Muskie fisherman use that small stuff like trout for bait !

I'm sure I'll be back here with more questions as I putter along.

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Unread 02-06-2005, 05:17 PM   #5
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Nah Charlie, you are starting out with 4" and if the truth be tol, you don't even need 3". I've seen Lonny the Plumber hereabouts recommend them on numerous occasions.

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Unread 02-06-2005, 05:47 PM   #6
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Thanks Mike!

I found it - Oatey. Says it's for 4" cast-iron, but looking at the design, it oughta work for 4" anything.

Nope, I'm not that full of whatever. Three inches oughta be enuff

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