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Unread 02-22-2015, 07:37 PM   #1
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What's the name of the floor heating system.....

At last years Coverings there was an under tile floor heating system that was super thin, a grey fabric with no discernible wires. Very thin. Might have been made in Dallas.

Anyone remember the name of that product or the company that makes it ?
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You're not talking about that thin filmy carbon stuff are you? Where the entire thing conducts electricity?
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Yes, its grey thin film I think
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HiCarbon?

Their main website doesn't want to work for me.

But here is info from distributor or something.
http://www.flooringheat.com/about.html
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Carbonic heat

Thanks for the missing word 'carbon'

But its limited to 200 sf per zone and this is a 4000 sf job

Do any wired systems (ditra heat) cover over 200sf? The main room of the house is 1700 sf
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Most any floor warming system can be scaled up. A single thermostat is limited on the amount of current it can sync, but using it to drive a relay or relays will work as long as you select one suitable for the load involved. YOu might have issues if there are areas that get a lot of solar verses where you have the floor sensor or you use multiple thermostats.
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Paul , I think the Prodesso Heat is out there now .

You can also benefit from Expansion Units for large areas .
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Is it protecto wraps system?
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Paul, most of the major cable systems except Schluter have relays available for large areas like Roberto linked, and they all work with DitraHeat mat. Suntouch is my favorite.
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The site supervisor is a retired engineer. I'm lobbying in the direction of the ditra as we are using some sort of membrane anyway.
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NuHeat wire works great in the Schluter system. In fact, Nuheat was to supply the wire for Schluter but they were too expensive so Schluter went to China to source its wire.
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NuHeat wire works great in the Schluter system. In fact, Nuheat was to supply the wire for Schluter but they were too expensive so Schluter went to China to source its wire.
Right - Nuheat Cables OR WarmWire cables work great with Ditra Heat - they are superior to Ditra's native heating cable.
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Hi George. In what way are the cables different than Schluter's cables?
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Hi George. In what way are the cables different than Schluter's cables?
The most significant differences are:
  1. Warranty: SunTouch and Nuheat offer a 25 year warranty while Schluter only warrantees the DITRA-HEAT Cables for 10.

  2. Cable design: The gauge of the heating elements inside most resistance heating cables varies depending on the size and voltage of the cable. This means that the diameter of most manufacturers’ cables will vary slightly from cable to cable. The DITRA-HEAT Cables, however, are all uniform in size because Schluter increases or decreases the insulation jacketing around the heating elements depending on the gauge of the wires inside. While this makes the cables snap into the membrane a little more snuggly, it also means that some of them have thicker jackets than is necessary.

  3. Variety of spacing: Nuheat and SunTouch’s cable systems have the option of being installed at a 2 pillar spacing in the DITRA-HEAT Membrane. Doing so makes the systems produce 15 watts per a square foot, which is the practical limit for most residential installations of electric radiant floor heat. According to Schluter’s manual, DITRA-HEAT Cables are only recommended to be spaced at 3 pillars. While the standard spacing is sufficient for many projects, having the option to increase the heat output with these otter cable systems when going over a slab or in an especially cold room is definitely a plus.

  4. Thermostats: The thermostats Schluter currently offers with their DITRA-HEAT systems are limited to 82 degrees, while SunTouch and Nuheat’s thermostats have a broader range that allows customers to raise the temperature past that for tile and stone floors if they so desire.
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Sorry for tugging on an older thread. So I could use NuHeat wire, with the Ditra heat system. Can I also use a different control system. I liked the SunTouch View control panel. My wife really liked the touch screen control panel, but liked to use the Ditra heat base.
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