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Unread 08-12-2008, 12:08 PM   #1
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The Hunt's Master Bath Walk in Kerdi Shower

I started my Master Bath shower a few weeks ago.... Walls are all dry walled in... Roofing Felt stapled to the floor with the wire mesh... I am wondering if I can set my kerdi drain one day and do the mud bed the next? If I can, should i just use a small batch of the deck mud or something else? Or do I need to do them both at the same time.... Just thought it would be easier to get the drain set ahead of time.....
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Unread 08-12-2008, 12:40 PM   #2
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hey Stacey,

you can use a small mixture of loose mud.
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Unread 08-12-2008, 12:44 PM   #3
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Welcome back, Stacy.

I would not recommend that.

Unless you can come up with a really good reason, I've gotta wonder why the thirty seconds it will take to set the drain when you're ready to mud the floor would be a problem.

The floor really wants to be monolithic and you can't really do that if you mud the drain and let that set up before you do the floor. It ain't life-threatening, mind you, but it ain't a good eye-dee, neither.

My opinion; worth price charged.
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Unread 08-12-2008, 12:48 PM   #4
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Thanks CX.... I'll just do it all at once.... Just thought it would be easier to screed the mud if the drain was set solid.....
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the mud under the drain will firm up pretty quick if thats your concern.
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Unread 08-12-2008, 01:13 PM   #6
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The mud at the outside perimeter won't be set up at all, Stacy, and the other end of your screed board will sit on that, eh?

The drain end will give you much less trouble because it'll have the drain flange sittin' on it.

Do a practice bed if you're concerned, but I don't think you'll have any trouble.

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Unread 08-12-2008, 05:25 PM   #7
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One more for ya ---

Any drawback to putting in the mud bed without attaching the kerdi drain to the waste plumbing in the crawl space til later? Thought I would do that after the shower is completed....
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Unread 08-12-2008, 08:06 PM   #8
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That won't be a problem, but you'll want to put a lot of weight on the flange when hooking up the pipe underneath.

If you don't, you'll pop out the flange from the mud.
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Unread 08-12-2008, 08:11 PM   #9
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Well, DT, to what do we owe the pleasure after all these months? Or is it years?

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you'll want to put a lot of weight on the flange when hooking up the pipe underneath.
The technical minimum is one-half-MIL-equivalent, but some folks find it easier to use a full MIL. Easier to place and move later.
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Oh, the website work is all done (added DITRA-XL) and I'm just kicking my feet up. Thought I might drop by and answer some questions.

(and do a little catching up)

Lookie, lookie - you done did 30 000 posts.
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Unread 08-12-2008, 08:34 PM   #11
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Damned if I ain't! CX is big blabbermouth.

Hope you at least added a parenthetical note that what you're calling Ditra XL is actually known as Uber Ditra. Schluter gonna catch on one of these days.
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Thumbs up

Got the mud bed in last night.... That was quite an experience. Would be much easier if the shower were smaller..... Hope to start the Kerdi after the weekend..... Headed to the lake....
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Unread 08-25-2008, 09:34 AM   #13
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I finished installing the Kerdi last night... Looks pretty good. One question that i have ---- I installed the Kerdi on the walls first, then Kerdi Band around the floor-wall junction and then put the floor in..... Is it ok to do it in this order? I made sure to have at least 2 inches of overlap.... Just making sure before i tile.....
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Unread 08-25-2008, 11:34 AM   #14
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Unread 08-25-2008, 04:34 PM   #15
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Stacey,

You will be fine. I tile the walls first,except the bottom row. The mud bed and Kerdi pan are installed and tiled, then the bottom row of wall tile.

You already have the Kerdi on the shower base, protect it well with scrap sheetrock or something suitable.
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