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Unread 06-07-2021, 02:49 PM   #31
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I've not seen any of TileRedi's products for years, Terry. Early in their manufacturing history they required epoxy for bonding to their products. That apparently changed at some point, allowing the use of thinset mortar.

But I'd still not depend on thinset mortar bonding Kerdi to that narrow plastic flange as a waterproof barrier. Not saying it wouldn't work, just saying I would not do it.

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Unread 06-07-2021, 03:53 PM   #32
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KerdiFIx is your best option, I think. There's no guarantee that the Kerdi membrane would provide the same bond and seal when using just thinset with that product. It MIGHT work, but KerdiFix definitely would.
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Unread 06-07-2021, 07:02 PM   #33
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Thanks gentleman. Will do.

Cx - is that the likeness of his Scroogeness? on your posts?
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Guys the "one mix fits all" didn't work. Had to yank it out. I wanted to use the Quikcrete Sand Topping Mix (mixing in play sand) that John shows in the book, but the Quikcrete is unavailable. Sakrete makes a Sand Mix Topping & Bedding that they say is a sand and cement mix, so it would appear to be the same product. What I don't know is whether it too, as John describes the Quikcrete, is "too rich" and needs a play sand infusion.

Do you have any insight. I'd like to make a new material selection that works (and is available) and get the mud bed laid so I can progress.

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His Scroogeness in my Avatar was assigned to me many years ago by one of my partners when I was one of the owners of this website. None would admit tot he crime, though, so I'll likely never know. Remarkably good likeness, though, in a couple respects.

Also many years back we (TYW) were told that the Quikrete Sand Topping mix was a 3:1 sand/cement ratio. Who told us and whether it was accurate has been lost in the mist of long life. I have personally tested it with and without the added sand we recommend and can testify that with the added sand it does, in fact, act like a proper 5:1 dry-pack mix. Wheter the Sackrete mix starts out at the same or similar 3:1 ratio, I don't know and don't know anyone who does know. I would expect it to be very much the same product, but I been wrong before. I would suggest you get some and give it a try and see how it works.

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Unread 06-08-2021, 11:35 AM   #36
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Thanks CX!

For entertainment value you should watch, if you haven't, the version of the story in a movie called "Scrooged" with Bill Murray. Very entertaining, and the face of a scrooge that wouldn't bother me.

Thanks for the tip. I am going to make an attempt to find out what ratio the Sakrete is before I dive in, although my diving in shouldn't surprise you at this point since I've already had one fail. I'd like to convert my shower back from a laboratory to a tile project though. The wife has been patient so far, but the 4th is coming...........and so is her family so she wants it done.
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Unread 06-08-2021, 12:36 PM   #37
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Just got the word from Sakrete. The mix is 4:1
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4:1 is usable, but a bit stickier than 5:1, so you can add some more sand. Sometimes, the premixed ones don't sift their sand all that well, and the grain sizes can vary, with an occasional pebble that can make things tougher. If you buy plain cement and get some proper sand from a place that does masonry work, you have more control.
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The Quikrete All Purpose sand from our local Home Depot and Lowes works pretty well but it might be different in your part of the world. It has some fine grains in it along with some up to about 1/8 in diameter.

It's less convenient but much cheaper to buy in bulk from a masonry supply. The masonry supply I use charges about 35 bucks a cubic yard.
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