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Old 11-15-2018, 08:52 PM   #1
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Fast mortar beds

Anyone try a unirail system, or any metal screed rail for doing mortar beds? Ive got a 3 level house with a total of 4700sqft of mortar beds and 24" porceline coming up. I need perfect and fast due to a lack of manpower and only one of me with skill.
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Old 11-16-2018, 06:47 AM   #2
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I never have. The only thing I've added over the past 10 years is a self leveling laser. It saves a lot of time figuring your heights.

If you have deep mudbeds and need a lot of mud made, a tiller can make mix it real fast. Sounds like you need some man power.
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Thanks Davy, we've actually got the imer mortarman electric which is amazing. I do love tillers tho. I have some monkeys to use, but they cant rail or pull, hell, Ill have to monitor the sand moisture because they cant be trusted to keep a consistant mix. If I can realistically take mud rails and use metal on 4700 ft, I might not be a cripple at the end.
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Hi Jeremy,

I don't know anything about a system, but I agree with Davy. You need some help. My biggest problem always was having the mixing keep up with me. If you can stay on your knees you can cover some ground. Otherwise?
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Old 11-16-2018, 05:01 PM   #5
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Hire this one out.

The guys round these parts can make that job pool table flat for about $6/sf while you stand there and watch.
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Old 11-16-2018, 05:39 PM   #6
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I hire those guys just to do large mud beds. Tile is extra.
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Old 11-16-2018, 07:56 PM   #8
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Yeah, we dont have "mud crews" round these parts. Guys round here cant mud shower pans...true story.
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If I had some tile guys/mud crews around here I'd probably be one of them
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Hi Justin,

Have I ever asked you just where you are in East Texas?
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Yes sir, I'm in Palestine, Tx. You mentioned you had visited downtown before I think.
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Old 11-18-2018, 09:23 AM   #12
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I owned and used a rail system years ago. Only dragged it out on big jobs, it would do thousands of feet a day but set-up took forever.
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Hey Dave, what product do you speak of? What Im.thinking is pretty much just some 20mm angle steel, galvanized. Just so it can be screwed and shimmed with a laser transit, then I can just pack and pull. I dont know if it will make it much faster overall, but I think it would be easier with a perfect outcome.Name:  Unirail-Screed-Rail.jpg
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Old 11-18-2018, 06:03 PM   #14
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I would have to think on it, long time ago. It was from Italy, remember that much and I bought (ordered) it at ITSE or Coverings. It was a preferred system by one of our clients. It had miniature rails, like a train, with adjustable spinning jacks for elevation. You used a 10' vibrating screed that either rode on or locked into the rails. The biggest problem was mixing fast enough to keep it fed. Saw some guys use it on an Aldi's which was a quarry over mud spec at the time. They mixed and fed it with a skid steer.
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Justin,

I think for Yankees and others from the hinterlands we should say something about Texan pronunciation. Palestine is pronounced Pales-teen. Yes, I've passed through a time or two, last time on my way to Kansas City. Stayed at an RV part somewhere north of town.
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