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Unread 05-13-2010, 04:07 PM   #1
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Are we being attacked from within?

I'd like to establish this thread to be able present a forum for presenters to expose factions here that are hell bent on destroying the United States from within.. Here is one, an extremist Muslim Student Association (MSA) It's part of a network of Islamic Extremists set up from the Brotherhood and it's goal is....
"Eliminating and destroying Western Civilization from within and 'sabotaging' its miserable house so that it is eliminated and God's religion is made victorious over all other religions."

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Unread 05-13-2010, 04:24 PM   #2
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Does the current administration count?
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Unread 05-13-2010, 04:32 PM   #3
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What did they say? "We Will Bury You..." Sure as hell looks like it is being done within. We now have the "Manchild" in office...one that certainly adheres to and espouses the Socialist~Marxist doctrine. "Power to the People!" etc, etc, etc. He has taken over our healthcare system, General Motors, Wall Street and far more.

The "Heroes" that the people he put in power look up to Marx, Stalin, Bill Ayers, Rev. Wright et.all.

The amazing thing is that, in time past, the terrorists were are the far end of the spectrum.....NOW, they are hired to be White House Advisors.

This used to be a hell of a good Country.....
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Unread 05-13-2010, 04:55 PM   #4
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That's a good point fellas.. I was thinkin Extremist Islamo and homegrown groups but this administration certainly qualifies doesn't it?
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Unread 05-13-2010, 07:22 PM   #5
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This used to be a hell of a good Country.....
This still is a hell of a good Country, Laz! Do you have any idea what things like that sound like to someone who is serving this country and at any second, literally, could lose their life doing so? Stating things like that is, to me, one of the absolutely most disrespectful things you can do to those people.

But I know that you guys don't think about them when you type things like that. Nope, you're mad at 'the man'. Sad to say but I honestly hope that none of the people that are putting their lives on the line to give you that right ever read it.

Since you all are so giddy about your little conspiracies maybe you should realize that statements like those are exactly what the people with whom you disagree would want you to believe.

Looks like they're winning. (Insert evil mad scientist laughter)
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Unread 05-13-2010, 07:31 PM   #6
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I find myself always trying to see the other persons side of the argument, regardless of my own opinions...sometimes I can't. I do, however, always come back to this- I'm in a place where debate is valued, and expected. I can do so with no real repercussions. As much as I can't always see the other side, It is a beautiful thing to speak your mind.
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Unread 05-13-2010, 09:50 PM   #7
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Here we go again

Someone is out to get us...

ALL OF US!

Quick, take cover!

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Unread 05-13-2010, 10:15 PM   #8
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Well I take Laz's side as well and I also agree this used to be one hell of a good country. Whether the country has gone to crap or not financially or morally has nothing to do with snubbing your nose at the men in uniform. If you don't think some of them feel the same way then you have your head in the sand.

The fact is it is still our country and whatever that country may be, that is what they are fighting for, supposedly. I'm not going to hide my feelings and if I upset some patriotic folks then I say go have a pity party. It is what it is and I'm not going to sugarcoat it.
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Unread 05-13-2010, 10:26 PM   #9
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Care to clarify your 'supposedly' comment, Ben? Seems to me that you may want to take a step back and actually see where the pity party has been hosted for the last year or so.

And no one said anything about 'snubbing your nose' at those in uniform. Simply stating how it sounds to some people in uniform as one that used to be and had to read crap like 'this used to be one hell of a country'. I simply take great offense to ludicrous statements like that. Never said anything about hiding your feelings, either. Simply stating a fact which some may not be aware. Apparently it isn't a problem for you.

As far as how the men and women in uniform feel I hardly have my head in the sand, but thanks for a post full of assumptions.

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I proudly wore the uniform (82nd Airborne 3 yrs) and take no offense to any American stating their opinion about the state of affairs in this country.

Roger, don't take offense when hard working American citizens speak their mind. I'm not saying don't disagree but don't take offense. Besides the actual words the guys here have used, it all just conveys a sense of frustration at the direction and place the country is in NOW.

I know Vietnam vets who "speak their mind" and do it pretty damn bluntly. Pretty sure I've head them say things like "This country is going to hell!" Pretty much what I think Laz was saying.

In a way we all fight for this country and it's good that we do. Boots and bullets or ideas and votes.

Which ever frontline your on, there is a enemy on the other side.

It is a naive question to ask "Are we being attacked from within?" , of course we are.
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My comment was not intended to disparage America. Warts and all, it's STILL the best Country in the world. We are still selfless; we still openly help others in a charitable way. We have a proud history of liberation as it applies to oppressed people and cultures. I was referencing the sad fact that our Government has become a lumbering, bloated entity that now leans toward controlling us thru regulation, excessive taxation and, increasingly limiting our lives. The people in Washington have forgotten exactly what the term "Civil Servant" means. They are supposed to answer to us...not the other way around.
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I also served in uniform for 9 years and would never take offense to any of these types of comments.

I'm actually glad to here some of these comments, because that's what we all fought for and continue to fight for, our freedom of speech.

It's not like these folks are saying they want to overthrow the government or kill children.
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"I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration."
I agree with Hillary.
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I agree with Hillary.
Except that you believe it. I'm purty sure she said it to pander.
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Oh,

This Country used to have one hell of a Government? I guess that would have been the point everyone is trying to make? Since it is one hell of a Country the people have the power to change what they don't agree with and turn it back into what they may consider a good Government.

Small semantic difference that irritates the hell out of me...I'm not suggesting stifling your freedom of speech or that anyone is unpatriotic as has been implied - but thanks. I'm not part of one of your conspiracies.

My problem. Have a nice day.

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