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Unread 10-18-2008, 10:15 PM   #1
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mud work

quick question for you guys do any of you flat trowel your mud after you rub it up. we dont use deck mud on counters. all fat mud and i have found it works really well to smooth it out after rubbing it up we used to just rub it up and scrape the mud the next day with a tamberine scraper.
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Unread 10-18-2008, 10:36 PM   #2
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I always rub the mud down with a wood float, then burn it with a flat trowel. So for us, the answer is yes
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Unread 10-18-2008, 10:40 PM   #3
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I use deck mud for the counter top and I do flat trowel my mud when I'm done. So I can set the same day with out ripping my deck mud up when I put the thin set down. But on fat mud If you flat trowel it to much you will bring the water to the top and just have a mess the top will be to wet to set the same day.
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Unread 10-18-2008, 10:59 PM   #4
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Most of the time, yes ... especially when the mud is going have a trowel applied membrane over it.
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Unread 10-18-2008, 11:24 PM   #5
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Hi Larry,
I use a fiberglass darby to work out my floats, instead of a wooden one. Dry pack always gets a steel trowel finish and wall mud never does.
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Unread 10-19-2008, 06:35 AM   #6
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I do that too, i tamp down the drypack before i pull it on large floors.Which i never do anymore.
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Unread 10-21-2008, 06:02 AM   #7
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on the subject of deck mud,what ratios do you guys use?
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Unread 10-21-2008, 06:14 AM   #8
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The Steam shower pan I just installed was Laticrete's 209 pre-mixed floor mud mixed with their 3701 admix. I normally shoot for a 4:1 mix for floors though.
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Unread 10-21-2008, 10:31 PM   #9
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i like that 209 premix nice stuff to work with shaughnn where you getting the fiberglass float?? is it the one with the diamond pattern on the bottom cuz i cant find em anymore
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Unread 10-21-2008, 10:42 PM   #10
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Hi Jason,
I'm using a fiberglass float from Marshalltown. I bought it locally but most masonry and concrete suppliers seem to carry them.
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Unread 10-22-2008, 12:07 AM   #11
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I never steel trowel my fat mud and always steel trowel my deck mud.

Shaughnn, what are the advantages of using a fiberglass float over a wood float?
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Unread 10-22-2008, 06:32 AM   #12
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Hi Dale,
I like the resin float because is doesn't cake up with cement and gives a finish which is close to that of a steel trowel. I haven't used a wood float in maybe 6 years now. I really like working with these that much better than wooden floats.
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Unread 10-22-2008, 04:00 PM   #13
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Thanks, Shaughnn. I'm going to have to go float shopping!
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Unread 10-22-2008, 04:19 PM   #14
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i have a wood block i use if i accidentally dig and i fill in the wood block cuts the mud like a straight edge then i hit it with my trowel.
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I use a float I get from England Made of Polyurothame (exscuse spelling) so light you would thik your hands had a feather in them
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