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10-18-2008, 10:15 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2007
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mud work
quick question for you guys do any of you flat trowel your mud after you rub it up. we dont use deck mud on counters. all fat mud and i have found it works really well to smooth it out after rubbing it up we used to just rub it up and scrape the mud the next day with a tamberine scraper.
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10-18-2008, 10:36 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: San Clemente, Ca
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I always rub the mud down with a wood float, then burn it with a flat trowel. So for us, the answer is yes
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10-18-2008, 10:40 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Oak view ca
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I use deck mud for the counter top and I do flat trowel my mud when I'm done. So I can set the same day with out ripping my deck mud up when I put the thin set down. But on fat mud If you flat trowel it to much you will bring the water to the top and just have a mess the top will be to wet to set the same day.
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10-18-2008, 10:59 PM
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Gonzo!
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Colorado
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Most of the time, yes ... especially when the mud is going have a trowel applied membrane over it.
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10-18-2008, 11:24 PM
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Trowel Monkey
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Kent, Washin'ton
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Hi Larry,
I use a fiberglass darby to work out my floats, instead of a wooden one. Dry pack always gets a steel trowel finish and wall mud never does.
Shaughnn
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10-19-2008, 06:35 AM
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Florida Tile & Stone Man
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Naples Fl.
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I do that too, i tamp down the drypack before i pull it on large floors.Which i never do anymore.
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10-21-2008, 06:02 AM
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licensed tile installation
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: fairfield county ct
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on the subject of deck mud,what ratios do you guys use?
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10-21-2008, 06:14 AM
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Trowel Monkey
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Kent, Washin'ton
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The Steam shower pan I just installed was Laticrete's 209 pre-mixed floor mud mixed with their 3701 admix. I normally shoot for a 4:1 mix for floors though.
Shaughnn
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10-21-2008, 10:31 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: albany new york
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i like that 209 premix nice stuff to work with shaughnn where you getting the fiberglass float?? is it the one with the diamond pattern on the bottom cuz i cant find em anymore
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10-21-2008, 10:42 PM
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Trowel Monkey
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Kent, Washin'ton
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Hi Jason,
I'm using a fiberglass float from Marshalltown. I bought it locally but most masonry and concrete suppliers seem to carry them.
Shaughnn
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10-22-2008, 12:07 AM
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California Tile Man
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Santa Cruz, CA
Posts: 181
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I never steel trowel my fat mud and always steel trowel my deck mud.
Shaughnn, what are the advantages of using a fiberglass float over a wood float?
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10-22-2008, 06:32 AM
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Trowel Monkey
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Kent, Washin'ton
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Hi Dale,
I like the resin float because is doesn't cake up with cement and gives a finish which is close to that of a steel trowel. I haven't used a wood float in maybe 6 years now. I really like working with these that much better than wooden floats.
Shaughnn
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10-22-2008, 04:00 PM
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California Tile Man
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Santa Cruz, CA
Posts: 181
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Thanks, Shaughnn. I'm going to have to go float shopping!
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10-22-2008, 04:19 PM
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South East PA Tile Contractor
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Delaware County, PA
Posts: 6,584
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i have a wood block i use if i accidentally dig and i fill in the wood block cuts the mud like a straight edge then i hit it with my trowel.
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10-20-2011, 03:53 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Obion, TN
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Float
I use a float I get from England Made of Polyurothame (exscuse spelling) so light you would thik your hands had a feather in them
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