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Old 12-30-2009, 11:23 PM   #1
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Shower Build

Hello,

I'm going to be installing tile in a shower that I have just finished covering with perma base cement board and wondering which thinset would be best for putting 2x2 tiles on the ceiling and floor and 12 x 24 tiles on the walls. Also is the same thinset good to use to attach the marble jam around the shower door.

On the last project I did over a concrete basement floor I used the ultra flex 2 stuff from Lowes, would I be able to use the same stuff in a shower or is this over kill or not even the right stuff to be using in a shower.

I was thinking of tiling the ceiling, then the walls and finally the shower floor. Would this be the best and proper order in which to tile a shower?


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Old 12-30-2009, 11:28 PM   #2
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Hi Dave, welcome! Did you install a vapor barrier behind the Permabase? The Ultra Flex will be fine for what you are doing. When I do a shower and the ceiling needs to be done I do it in the order you stated.
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Old 12-30-2009, 11:30 PM   #3
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Before I put up the cement board I put a 6mm poly up and then installed the cement board.
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Old 12-30-2009, 11:40 PM   #5
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Thanks, Mike

So for the marble shower jam which is pretty smooth on the back side, I dont need to do anything special to make sure they stick?

Also what size square notch trowel should I be using in a shower with those large tiles.
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That will stick to the marble. I would use a 3/8" or 1/2" notch. Check the walls with a straight edge to make sure they are flat.
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The walls are flat but alittle out of level or plumb I should say. So I'm thinking maybe with a 1/2 trowel I might have enough room to even them out when I put the tile down.

Also for the ceiling tiles that are 2x2 on a mesh backing do I need to support them in any way when I attach to the ceiling as they dry to avoid saging or is the fact that they have the mesh backing enough to hold them as they dry.
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Hi Dave, the 2x2s should stick onna ceiling just fine with the Ultra Flex. You might wanna make a board the size of the sheets to press them in.
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Mike,

I just finished installing the marble jam and the ceiling tiles and I'm about to start the walls.

Should I tile the walls right down to the dry pack floor and then install the floor tiles or should I leave the bottom role of tiles out and install them after the shower floor tiles go in so that they can rest ontop of the floor tiles.

Also the 2x2 shower floor and ceiling tiles are made of some sort of marble, should I be sealing them with something before I grout them and to prevent them from absorbing water when the shower is used?

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I reccomend sealing the marble before grouting. It can't hurt.

The shower floor; you have the 2 options you spoke of but now to consider

A- leave a gap if you need to -to get full tiles on the floor or hide the cut floor edges

b - put the floor in last (my personal preference) and run the wall tiles below the height of the floor tiles.

Either will give you a perfectly functioning shower, its just a matter of persoanl choice and how either will appeal to your aesthetic.
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You can do the wall/ floor joint either way.

The sealer might help to make the grouting easier and help on stains later but that's about it.
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Also if the marble is a light color and the grout is dark, the grout may stain the marble. Seal just the top of the tile and not the sides. No need to go crazy with the sealant.
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