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Unread 07-15-2019, 02:58 AM   #1
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Sukabumi tile damage

The Sukabumi tiles in my shower were never sealed and are crumbling in places. They have been in for over a year and I’m not sure what to do... can they still be sealed and will grout be an acceptable filler for the lost material?

Or, do I need to drill the tiles out and replace them?


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Unread 07-15-2019, 08:22 AM   #2
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Welcome to the forum, Anthony.

Certainly not my area of expertise, but I'll offer what I can.

Are any tile loose, or just pieces coming off the face of the tile?

Do you know what adhesive was used to install the tile?

Grout can be use for a lot of things, such as filling in areas like what you there, but there are limitations such as depth, depending on the grout. The one spot in your first picture looks like a natural void. Has it always been like that?

What kind of grout is in the joints?
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Unread 07-21-2019, 04:08 AM   #3
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I don’t seem to be receiving notifications, so I apologise for the late reply.

The tiles were all previously honed flat and the material has gradually fallen out.

There are a few tiles that are loose but they appear unconnected from the crumbling tiles that I’ve documented. One of the loose tiles isn’t even in the wet area although three are.

Unfortunately I don’t know what was used as adhesive or the original grout although I’m tempted to believe the grout is sanitized-coloured-grout-eco-cfg-davco


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Sealer wouldn't have kept it from eroding. You can try patching the voids but I think it will continue. I'm sorry about the problem but I'd plan to replace the shower with tile that will hold up better.
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Unread 07-21-2019, 07:58 PM   #5
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Sealer wouldn't have kept it from eroding. You can try patching the voids but I think it will continue. I'm sorry about the problem but I'd plan to replace the shower with tile that will hold up better.


Looks like patching is where I’ll start and later down the road I’ll have to take it all out. It’s disappointing that it’s a “wet area” stone that isn’t great in wet areas.



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Can you tell us more about this tile?

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It's typically used in swimming pools fully submerged.
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Unread 07-21-2019, 10:34 PM   #8
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Can you tell us more about this tile?




“Green sukabumi stone is volcanic stone which is containes chlorite mineral and formed by many iron nodules and layer so that makes this stone has many color variarion and some issue after instalation. There are two common issue which is appear on the green sukabumi stone such as:
1. Color changing
This problem caused by the iron that contains in the stone makes the stone oxidized. This kind of problem can be minimized by the matterial color selection during the production process
2. Crumble
Some matterial contains clay especially in crystal color based which leaches out in the sun and with water flowing over it and drying up again. To minimized this kind of problem by the matterial selection in the factory using the water test and sort the matterial that possibility to get crumble.”



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It's typically used in swimming pools fully submerged.


There is a PDF outlining the approved installation of this tile in Swimming pools by laticrete on the ineedstone website. It doesn’t mention sealing the tile around the pool though.


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I guess some of those tiles should have been sorted out and not used on the wall like that one with a gigantic void I would never have installed something like even on a backsplash , even if it was made out of travertine.
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Unread 11-27-2019, 09:48 PM   #11
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Loose tiles: cavity below

I have a few wobbly tiles in my shower area. As well as areas where the grout seems to blacken very easily. I’ve taken up two of the tiles and I’m concerned that there are cavities below the tiles.

Is it the case that there ought be cavities and I just didn’t know? Or is this just another cowboy job that I’ll be forever patching up? What should I do?



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Unread 11-27-2019, 10:03 PM   #12
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Hi Anthony,
Based on what I can see it looks like this was a patch from a previous repair.
You can see the mud case it the top right corner.
Also the smoothness of the mortar tells me the was not a good bond to tile.
I would maybe take a couple more tile out around these and see if in fact you can make a new base and or adequately set your tile properly.
A picture after you remove tile would steer me in a better direction.

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Unread 11-27-2019, 11:10 PM   #13
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I can take out a couple more and I’ll get back to you. The bad news is that we had the whole room stripped out and replastered. The tiling I think was done by another guy in the team... so really... it’s not a patch...


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This the same shower with the Sukabumi tiles, Anthony?

I'll be curious to see more of what might be under those shower floor tiles. No matter how many years I spend here there seems always to be at least one more very strange surprise waiting out there. And in the ceramic and stone tile industry, surprises are rarely a good thing, eh?
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Unread 11-27-2019, 11:40 PM   #15
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Anthony, do you mind if we merge the original thread about those tiles with this one? It might save you and our volunteers from asking/answering duplicate questions, and everyone can see the earlier story on this project.
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