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Unread 10-12-2018, 03:13 PM   #1
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The Wide Roll (Kerdi)

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Unread 10-12-2018, 03:31 PM   #2
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Unread 10-12-2018, 03:53 PM   #3
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Unread 10-12-2018, 04:16 PM   #4
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Unread 10-12-2018, 04:45 PM   #5
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Yeah....DEFINATELY "about time." Most of my showers I simply wrap the Kerdi around the corners. No need for Kerdi Band at obscene prices!

Hope DalTile gets them in soon......
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Unread 10-15-2018, 06:26 AM   #7
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Nobel has had 6' membranes as long as I can remember. Nice to see Schluter trying to catch up. In their demo you will need 100% plumb corners to achieve that install. In the real world that is rare. Having worked 6' goods I can tell you from experience that rounding that inside corner never goes that easy unless you have 100% plumb walls and corners. Again rare in construction these days. We always did full sheets on the walls floor to ceiling with 2" overlaps to the next sheet. Easier to work and make wrinkle free.
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Nice! I like the 6 ft rolls for bigger shower pans that would otherwise need to be seamed. The seam is always annoying with smaller tiles.
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I got my hands on some of the new stuff over the weekend to try out on this shower. It's not especially large, but big enough I would have had a seam on the floor with the standard size roll.

I typically roll the floor up the walls a couple of inches, and then set the corners. With this size roll I decided to forego the pre-formed corners altogether and just use some goop in the corners.

The whole thing took about two hours from start to finish, not including the time it took to cut the pieces. Incidentally, there were only three pieces in this shower.
The floor is a single piece, which goes up the walls two inches, and over the curb and a few inches onto the floor.
The wall is one single piece, all the way around, and the bench is one piece.

The hardest and most time-consuming part was cutting around the corner bench. Trying to get that section cut out was a bit of a chore. I found that using a large paper clip and a pushpin at the top of the roll really helped to keep it from falling over my head while I was working.

There are a few things to keep in mind while working with the wide roll. First, the walls need to be plumb and square, as mentioned earlier. Second, be sure to start the roll square with the edge, or you'll start working uphill or downhill. (It's hard to see in the picture below, but I drew a level line 6'7" off the floor to work from.). Sponge the walls thoroughly before starting. I did them twice before spreading mortar, just to give myself more time. And work fast. I don't recommend this wide roll to someone who has little or no experience with membranes. It can get away from you quickly. I think with a little more practice I could really speed up the installation time.

With only two seams in this shower, I'm looking forward to setting the tile in a couple of days. It's a 7x36 tile, and seemed to be very flat.

Also, I tried the unmodified version of Schluter all-set. It's a bit pricey at $24 a bag, but it spreads like a dream, and bonds to Kerdi very well. If you decide to try the wide roll, get a bag of something that has some good open time.

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Nice photos and description, Kevin. I can so see you working the Kerdi in fast forward.
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Thanks for the evaluation. And recommendations.
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yep-Noble has had 6' rolls for about 25 years.. On walls while it does eliminate a seam can be a tad cumbersome.
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Just checked in with my local Dal. They were aware of it but not sure if they are going to bring it in or not... "No Brainer" as far as I'm concerned.
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My supplier said they were discussing whether or not they were going to sell it in pieces, or only in full rolls.

It's a good product, but I don't want to tie up over a grand in something like that. There's enough in one roll to do about seven 3x5 showers.
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WOW, impressive! you are not kidding about the plumb and square the slightest off lean and the roll starts going uphill/downhill on the walls. Was the Schluter all-set super creamy or did it have a little grit to it?

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