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Old 09-22-2018, 09:15 AM   #1
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Silicone Before or After Grout ?

Seems like most people like to grout first. I'm thinking the grout would be easier to clean off the newly applied silicone than the other way around.

Either way I find applying 100% silicone more difficult than standard water based caulk.

Does anyone like using the plastic caulk tooling kits?

Lastly I noticed the 100% silicone will shell over and become difficult to spread in the joint. I tried spraying water but that made it worse.
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Old 09-22-2018, 09:26 AM   #2
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Hi Steve. When using caulk, I like using water to smooth it out. For silicone, I use Acetone.

To me, it's easier to grout first. While washing, use a tool to rake the grout out of the joints you want caulked. Let the grout dry, then caulk.

But, there are no rules, you can do it either way.
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Old 09-22-2018, 09:38 AM   #3
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Thanks Davy. I've also seen people that won't tool in there beads but they end up with pin holes and it doesn't look good.I use nitrile gloves and my index finger for tooling.

I'll try the acetone on a master shower I'm finishing up.
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Old 09-22-2018, 09:42 AM   #4
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Yeah, I use my fingernail to smooth out the caulk. Turn your hand so your nail is against the caulk, then slide it up the corner.

Silicone isn't water soluble so water doesn't work with it.
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Old 09-22-2018, 01:02 PM   #5
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I like using denautured alcohol. Run the bead, spritz will alcohol, then tool. I use an old credit card, or one of the laminate countertop sample chips that they have at Lowe's and hd.
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Old 09-22-2018, 01:19 PM   #6
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Old 09-22-2018, 06:04 PM   #7
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For silicone get a spray bottle and put some Dawn in it with water. Get a caulking dressing tool. Install the silicone and then spritz it with the soapy water solution. Dress the caulking with the tool and wipe off the excess of the tool with paper towels. Super easy!
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Learn something every day, thanks Karl.
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Old 09-22-2018, 06:54 PM   #9
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Steve, the tile industry standards call for grouting before applying flexible sealants.

You can, of course, do it in whatever order you like, but I'd recommend you grout and let that cure at least 24 hours before any caulking.

My opinion; worth price charged.
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No problem Davy I learned that trick from the NTCA seminars that come through every year.
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