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Unread 02-14-2020, 06:00 AM   #1
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Water test

How long should I wait to do water test after laying Oatey liner and silicone?
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Unread 02-14-2020, 07:25 AM   #2
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I'd probably give the silicone 24 hours to cure, but the directions on the side of the tube might say something to the contrary.
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Welcome aboard, Harry.

What's the silicone for? I presume you're talking about a PVC liner. The curb corners are usually glued on with the glue that is sold for that purpose.
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I think you're supposed to wait overnight but I've done it within a couple of hours before.
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Unread 02-15-2020, 05:32 PM   #5
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Thank you for the repsonse. Glad to be a part. I know metal lathe is the best option for curb over the cement board.

my contractor put screws and cement board already on the inside (at the very top only) and top of curb. I will be finishing all 3 bathrooms. He just roughed in plumbing. Was planning on lathe but then I'd have to replace all 3 liners.

1. Can I take out screw, squeeze silicone down to liner then place screw back in?
2. remove CB put a bead around the hole then put back on?
3. Patch the liner with x15 since it's a new liner then metal lathe?

This is not ideal just trying to avoid replacing liner.
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Did he screw the cement board into the liner along the wall perimeter also? If so, how low?
If it’s only on the curb, you may be able to get by with a “patch” a.k.a seaming a new section of liner onto the existing. Take a 12”+ wide by X” length of your curb section of liner and seam it using X15 starting a few inches prior to the curb and wrapping it entirely. Let it cure and do a flood test with the water to the very top of your curb. If it passes you’re alright.

Disclaimer: I’d redo the entire liner, if he is ignorant enough to screw into the curb he may be ignorant of the other requirements in a liner install.
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Unread 02-15-2020, 07:27 PM   #7
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Welcome, Harry.

I gotta agree with Christopher's "Disclaimer" line.

What you really want to do is demand that your contractor remove and replace that liner, or, better, have someone qualified do the replacement.

You can make some small patches from the liner material and glue them on with the X15, but that can be a little tricky. And, as Christopher points out, that doesn't help at all with other damage your contractor might have done to your liner.

My opinion; worth price charged.
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Thanks for the advise. Screws are not all the way around. Contractor is actually really good. Pre- sloped, water test, passed inspection. People are still doing the CB and screws though I guess because it's quicker.

It should be easy for me to just change liner myself and do quick flood test at this point. I'm doing everything else.
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Harry, to say the contractor is "really good" and that he also put screws through the liner on the curb of a conventionally built shower receptor is oxymoronic at best. A really good contractor would have known better. There is no proper way to build a curb using CBU in a conventionally built shower receptor. None. A really good contractor would know that. A very, very basic concept in shower construction.
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Harry said, "People are still doing the CB and screws though I guess because it's quicker". Actually, it's because they don't want to go to the trouble or don't have the know how to mud the curb properly.
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I'd like to go with a pre-mix for the mud deck. I bought sakrete but can return if not correct. Can I use Sakrete right out of the bag or should I add 1 bag of sand for every 60 lb Sakrete?

Is quikrete a better product?

Which pre-mix with lime can I use for shower curb?
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Qwikcrete and Sakcrete is about the same thing. You want the deck mud to be 5 sand to 1 Portland cement. You can use all purpose sand and mix your own or add sand to sand mix, which has too much Portland in it.

For the curb you want fat mud, which is 4 sand to 1 Portland cement and about3/4 lime.

Check out the "shower construction info" thread in the liberry. It'll help you out.
Here's a link. https://www.johnbridge.com/vbulletin...ead.php?t=5434
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For your curb, if Sakrete is the brand to which you have access, Harry, look for a Mortar Mix. Should say it's Type S. Avoid Type N, but if they have a Type M, that's OK.

My opinion; worth price charged.
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