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Unread 08-19-2013, 03:35 PM   #1
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Question Help deciding between Mediterranea brand tile (USA) & Lea Ceramiche (Italy)

Hello, please help me decide between a tile by Mediterranea (made in USA I used to think was by Arizona tile) and a tile by Lea Ceramiche (made in Italy). Both tiles are PEI rating 5. The Lea tile is thicker. Tiles are very similar looking. Does one brand have better quality in general?
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Unread 08-19-2013, 06:38 PM   #2
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Installed properly, I think either one would work for you.....
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Hi Creek,

Thicker doesn't mean better or worse. What's important is if they meet ANSI A137.1 standards. Is there anything on either package mentioning this?

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Unread 08-19-2013, 09:09 PM   #4
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Lea Ceramiche tile says Ansi 137.1 (Glazed Porcelain Tiles - class P1).

Looking for Arizona Tile tile. Seems to me Arizona Tile brand is actually Mediterranea brand tile. It does not have Ansi. Here's what it says:
BRUSHED STATIC C.O.F. DRY
: 0.90
BRUSHED STATIC C.O.F. WET
: 0.65
BRUSHED DYNAMIC C.O.F. WET
: 0.66
HONED STATIC C.O.F. DRY
: 0.78
HONED STATIC C.O.F. WET
: 0.61
HONED DYNAMIC C.O.F. WET
: 0.44
POLISHED STATIC C.O.F. DRY
: 0.78
POLISHED STATIC C.O.F. WET
: 0.52
POLISHED DYNAMIC C.O.F. WET
: 0.26
POLISHED P.E.I. RATING
: 3
BRUSHED/HONED P.E.I. RATING
: 5
FROSTPROOF
: Yes



technical information average results
5 visible abrasion resistance
7 mohs
0.07% water absorption
class A chemical resistance
403 lbs breaking strength
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Unread 08-20-2013, 11:49 AM   #5
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No experience with the Arizona, but we used Lea's Rainforest series for our main floor about 10 years ago, as well as our master bath about 5 years ago.

The tiles were very uniform and went in well. No issues with quality control or appearance. In fact, they've held up really well to our everyday living 'drop test' of various items with no chipping to the tiles.

They are a #*$& to drill, if you need any holes though. I quickly learned my lesson and switched to a small diamond core bit for that.
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Unread 08-20-2013, 09:41 PM   #6
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Does the information I posted show that one tile has better quality than the other?
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Unread 08-20-2013, 11:43 PM   #7
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You want consistent tile you can rely on. That ANSI standard defines a bunch of what I'd call desirable characteristics to the tile. Not having the ANSI standard doesn't guarantee a problem with a particular tile. But if both tiles are equal in terms of beauty and only one of those meets the ANSI standard...pick that one.

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Welcome, Creek.

What Goldstein said.

All those coefficient of friction ratings, especially without any indication of testing to ANSI standards, are pretty meaningless and refer only to the various surface finishes of your tiles. Tells you nothing else and you already know that when your tiles get wet they'll be more slippery, eh?

The PEI rating is outdated and no longer used. The "visible abrasion resistance" is the replacement scale, but, again, if it's not tested to ANSI standards you don't really know what it means. The manufacturer can publish any claims he wants.

Same with the other tests.

Might be a good tile, might not. Without reference to the ANSI standards as published in A137.1 you simply don't know. You get to make your own judgement about what's in the box.

My opinion; worth price charged.
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Thanks. It seems the Lea is the better quality tile.
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