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06-11-2022, 06:37 AM
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Allowed? Yes. Preferred? maybe not. 3/4" is pretty steep across 8" but it doesn't look like you're going to have much of a choice.
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06-11-2022, 08:07 AM
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thx, that helps. The other two options don't have this limitation so i just need to decide which option i like better visually / stylistically.
Another one:
You know how we usually tile the wall's second row, then tile the floor, then cut and tile the first row?
However, if the situation called for the first row to be tiled first, could you tile the first row and then tile the floor? The first row ends up "embedded" and lower than the floor tiles. The floor tiles basically end up hiding the cut of the wall tiles.
I have seen a few "professionals" do it and was wondering if there is a reason not to do it (again just in certain situations). Maybe it is better for water/moister from the wall to inherently "skate" over the first tile as oppose to go straight to the mud bed? There is silicone of course where the two meet.
Thx!
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06-11-2022, 09:42 AM
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If your shower is properly waterproofed, the tile sequence or orientation is purely an aesthetic consideration. I prefer to have my floor tiles end under the wall tiles in a shower application, but it's frequently done the opposite way.
My opinion; worth price charged.
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06-11-2022, 06:18 PM
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Thx for all the help. I am happy with how it came out. I'll post more pics after it's cured. Almost ready to tile and I am very excited about that.
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06-17-2022, 03:27 PM
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Post 1 - Layout 1
Hi,
Which tile layout do you like better? The tiles are big 24" x 48" porcelain tiles.
The Mrs. doesn't care either way. She is ready for the project to be over...
Post 1 - Layout 1: tiles aligned to the cross in the window
Pros: Appealing?
Cons:
- 4 tiles have to be cut perfectly to form the circle for the window
- The last row is not a full tile which will suggest lack of planning
The next post has the second proposed layout
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06-17-2022, 03:30 PM
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Post 2 - Layout 2
Post 2 - Layout 2 - Two tiles forms the cutout for the window
Pros:
- Only two tiles need to be cut for the window?
- Almost a full tile for the last row
Cons:
- The first row is very short. A ledger board will only have about an inch to be screwed into the CBU without making a hole in the liner. Also, the end of the first row will be very close to the "baseboard" tile
- The way the tiles line up to the square window opening.
If this was your project, what would you opt for?
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06-18-2022, 08:23 AM
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If you can hit both windows perfectly, like it shows, then #2.
Do you have plastic behind the cement board?
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06-18-2022, 04:44 PM
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See photo on page 18, Post 264, Jim. You had to kinda grow up with this thread.
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06-18-2022, 05:04 PM
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Ouch...
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Originally Posted by Tiger Mountain Tile Inc
If you can hit both windows perfectly, like it shows, then #2.
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Not exactly in case it changes your mind. By the circular window there would be 3/4" notch above and below the hole. That is, the opening for the window is 22" and the tile is 23.5". By the rectangular window the tile ends up 1/2" below the window.
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06-19-2022, 07:54 AM
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Yep. That matters. Definitly 1 then. #1 will hit the bottom of the big window and the top of the bench?
What would happen if you shifted that whole layout to the right?
I'm thinking the tile in the corner might look like it wraps around the corner. Then maybe it hits the end of the window? What if you started full on the left?
Edit: Can you list how long each of these pieces are?
Last edited by Tiger Mountain Tile Inc; 06-19-2022 at 08:03 AM.
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06-19-2022, 12:46 PM
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Happy Fathers Day for all the dads out there!
As you can see, I am spending mine tiling.. 
Time out for a second from the wall layout. I started to tile the shower's floor today.
In the first pic the black line is where there is a plane change.
As such, I planned to make a diagonal cut in the tiles to accommodate it.
However, when I placed the tiles on the shower floor to mark them for the diagonal cut, they actually seems to be following the contour really nicely somehow.
Could that be? Is it just an "illusion" and not fall for it? Even if it changes the gap on a few of the tiles, it seems less intrusive and more visually appealing than a long cut.
What do you think?
Thx!
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06-20-2022, 10:53 AM
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LOL, my "Dexter" cutting station. I didn't want to cut outside on the porch as it is soooo hot and buggy. I also didn't want to go up and down 3 flights to the garage for every cut. It actually works really well to contain the water from the saw!
Also, what do you think of the above post? Could it be that the sheets fit over the change of plane without having to be cut?
Thx!
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06-20-2022, 12:01 PM
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If you can set the full tiles without lippage you consider excessive, no technical reason not to do so.
My opinion; worth price charged.
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06-21-2022, 05:19 PM
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Thx! I like so much better how it looks without the diagonal cut (pic #1). It is unexpected pleasant surprise. I had to mostly just eyeball the alignment of the sheets. The gap between each square was bigger than 1/16" but smaller than 1/8" so I couldn't use either type of spacer. I ended up using the Dr. spinner 1/16" base plates side ways which is not ideal as it only forms a "T" as oppose to a cross and still a hair too small for the gap.
Thank you very much James for the help with the layout.
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Can you list how long each of these pieces are?
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The width of the wall with the windows is 107"
The width of the wall without the windows is 94.5"
The tiles are 47" x 23.5"
As per the annotation in your pic:
A = 36-3/4"
B = Full tile so 47"
C= 23-3/8"
D + E= Both are full tiles (47" x2) given the 94.5" length of the wall
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Originally Posted by Tiger Mountain Tile Inc
Definitely 1 then. #1 will hit the bottom of the big window and the top of the bench?
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No. You can see in that post that two separate tiles ends about a quarter from the bottom and top of the big window. Also, the tiles by the bench will need to be trimmed a little (<1") as the bench is too high to accommodate a full tile.
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Originally Posted by Tiger Mountain Tile Inc
What would happen if you shifted that whole layout to the right?
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Then you end up with the smaller 36" tiles on the left hand side as oppose to the right side.
I am assuming (possibly incorrectly) that it is easier to cut a circular opening for the window out of 4 tiles as oppose to 2?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tiger Mountain Tile Inc
I'm thinking the tile in the corner might look like it wraps around the corner. Then maybe it hits the end of the window? What if you started full on the left?
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Please see attached pic #2. The tiles ends a few inches away from the big window. A single full tile covers almost the entire window but i think it will be hard to cut and tile without breaking it. Unless you use small tile pieces for the corners which means redoing the circle is easier since you only need to redo a small tile.
Many many thanks for all the help
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06-23-2022, 08:41 AM
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If you want to center on the window the only adjustment that I would make is to put a half tile on the right side wall. So it would be half-full-half on that wall. That way the corner looks like it's a full tile that folds around the wall.
It would have been nice if the bench was built with the layout in mind. Having a sliver around the top of it is kind of unfortunate. I think I'd move the whole layout up to prevent that situation. Hopefully, the window will still look mostly centered.
edit: Actually, changing the height of the bench is the way to go. If you aren't able to build it to the exact height to work with the layout then simply making it taller or shorter is the way to go.
Typically, 15-19 is the finished height you want your bench to be. What if you added another row of blocks or bricks to the top?
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