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Unread 05-26-2010, 07:52 AM   #1
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hellllloooo again - lookin for input from ya'll

Question of the day: 17x17 3/8" porcelain in unheated but interior poolhouse/cabana in northestern US. Asked for 1 1/4" ply. What's everyones opinion on appropriate membranes/underlayments/setting materials?
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Unread 05-26-2010, 08:04 AM   #2
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I myself hate to say it but ditra would be the way to go. Unless ya mud and lathe it.....


see what the smart folks say the crazy guy gave his answer...and oh yeah I wouldnt use anything byt laticrete to set it with
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Unread 05-26-2010, 08:23 AM   #3
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Hmmm ok. Bein a ditra girl, I'm all for tht. Well, not ALL I guess, for the same old unmodified vs modified on top thing. As I was just sayin to shaughnn on facebook, I'm in love with mapei LFT right now but worrying bout any mod curing under 17's over ditra even if I fill it before setting. Got no problem with mudding it but then need membrne or just go? It will def freeze, will get wet but not soaked. Hmmmm
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Unread 05-26-2010, 08:28 AM   #4
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i would membrane it then...i just did a bathrooms floor mudded it and then used kerdi over the floor and shower and bathroom floor as well


i still say ditra and laticrete the thing... and you did say you are on a wood subfloor
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Unread 05-26-2010, 08:57 AM   #5
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I would see how the floor is and either do the 1 1/4" ply or mud the thing if it's way outta wack. The Ditra is a must for this in my opinion. And I'd use a Laticrete 252 or Versabond but that's just me.
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Unread 05-26-2010, 10:24 AM   #6
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I'd say membrane on ply, paper & wire & float with 3701 Fortified, Hydroban, 254 and whatever grout, maybe Permacolor. Should be good to go.
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Can't see the pic too well, but are you tatted up or is that just some sheer floral top?
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Jimmy, clarify your installation suggestion a bit. Looks like more than one operation.

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Unread 05-26-2010, 12:48 PM   #9
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I vote mud or Ditra.
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Unread 05-26-2010, 04:44 PM   #10
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I would go with Ditra/Versabond, and Kerdi Band the seams.

The ultimate would be Ardex FB-9L under, and over the Ditra, and Kerdi Band the seams with Laticrete 317, or Versabond.
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wow and my answer was right the crazy guy...my brain is starting to come around
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Unread 05-26-2010, 06:33 PM   #12
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Shannon, Either Ditra or 1/4" Durock. I do alot of places up here that are shut down during the winter. Although the Ditra works with the unmodified, I'm always a little skittish being the temp extremes the tile will see. Keep in mind, alot of people winterize their summer homes up here-- antifreeze in all the water lines, and so forth, so the tile will see prolonged subzero temps during the winter. For that reason, I prefer the cement board and 317/333, along with a modified grout, or even epoxy.
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One more vote for ditra and lightly modified......
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If I use Ditra outside, I use rapid set. Yes, I know a quality unmod is supposed to be sufficient. I am nervous about the bond to the tile side with freeze / thaw cycles, though.

If you want to use LFT, talk to Mapei about what to do whether AquaD, 315, or whatever. They have an option for everything.
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Unread 05-26-2010, 11:08 PM   #15
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Well, with Hydroban and 254 Platinum, I believe you could get a lifetime garranty from Laticrete. LFT is supposed to be some good stuff, so I'll agree with Crestone and say talk to Mapei.

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