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Unread 03-04-2004, 02:46 PM   #1
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Floor heat insulation between floor and heat wire?

Hi all, I am planning on installing electric floor heat in my basement bathroom on a concrete floor.

I am wondering if any of you have heard of a product called Wediboard?

http://www.wedi.de/english/index.html

If so what are your thoughts.

It is cement board made in Germany and it sandwiches a layer of insulating foam between to layers of cement board.

I want to insulate my heat wire/tile from the cold concrete floor thus reducing the electricity needed.

Then the floor won't act like a big heat sink.

I am looking at the 1/4 think product. Although I have yet to find anyone to supply me with it without a huge shipping charge, that would be my next question.:0)

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Unread 03-04-2004, 04:33 PM   #2
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Hi Kelly,

Well you are right about the heat radiating down as well as up. I talked to our friends at Warmly Yours and they suggested using a cork underlayment.

It has a great R value. Don't get me wrong, if you can find Wedi it will work just like you thought.

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Unread 03-04-2004, 04:39 PM   #3
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Cork? Hmm seems that would go against the whole idea of a good solid backer board for tile instillation?

Is there a cork product that would be approved for under tile instilation?

Would you thinset it to the concrete and then applie the heat wire?

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Unread 03-04-2004, 04:53 PM   #4
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I am a dope I didn't know you wanted to tile over it.

I'll think about it and get back to you.

Again, I'm sorry.
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Unread 03-04-2004, 05:09 PM   #5
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DON"T be sorry! It was I that never indicated that it was tile until the last post.

I just appreciate that people are so willing to help.

There is another product that HD has called Ryno board. I'ts about 1/8th or maybe 3/16th thick and they (the highly knowledgable HD employees) <grin> say it's approved as a tile backer board?


Even if it is alright to use I don't know is if there would be any R value in using it?

I have not found anthing on the web either?
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Kelly,

Click the Warmly Yours banner at the top right of this page. They have a procedure for using Wedi.

I don't think anyone uses Rhino Board for that application.
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Unread 03-04-2004, 09:16 PM   #7
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Permabase would work as well. It might be more readily available to you.

Seems to me that cork has been used but I have never done it.
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bonsal has pro panel (like wedi)
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Unread 03-05-2004, 08:13 AM   #9
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Thanks Scott & Eric,

Both are good ideas.

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Thanks for your input guys but nop luck so far.

Found a supplier of Wedi board but they will only ship it in 30" X 36" sheets and a pretty high shipping cost.

The Pro Board people say I'm out of luck unless I order a pallet of 50 sheets.

I think the Permabase only has a solid core board? Or did I not look in the right place?

If so then I think the Dura Rock that I have access to would be the same thing but I'm not sure if it would be worthwhile to put that down. Not sure if the R value would be high enough to even bother if it does not have a foam in the middle?

Any other ideas thoughts?

Thanks again.

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Unread 03-05-2004, 07:41 PM   #11
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Kelly did you talk to Warmly? Maybe they can arrange something.
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Unread 03-05-2004, 08:17 PM   #12
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The permabase has some foam beads in it. Probably has very little insulating value but would be better than durock.

One of the local stores was trying to sell a product called Insulayment. I think the manufacturer was MidWest Padding. I think I would be willing to try going over cork before using it though.

Go to www.google.com and do a search on insulayment and one on "cork under ceramic".
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Unread 03-07-2004, 09:12 PM   #13
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Thanks guys, I will let you all know what I use and how it works out!
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