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Unread 01-11-2003, 05:03 AM   #1
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I need a creative solution

I just became the proud owner of a mannequin arm and hand. I want to mount it to the side of my shed and hang a sign off the thumb (Secret Garden or Hosta Garden). I saw this on a gardening website and it looked great.

Problem--the fingers of the hand are finely cracked and have a little play in them. It's an old arm, looks to be made of coated plaster. I'm wondering if there's something I can paint on or dip the piece in that would strengthen it and make it waterproof. Kind of like the finish on cars. I would bring the arm and sign in for the winter, but it will be in the sun and rain a good part of the year.

Any creative problem-solvers out there with a good idea or two?
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Unread 01-11-2003, 07:48 AM   #2
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Hi dianne, You may be able to use a product called envirotex.Its available at hobby shops and craft shops. Small stores may have to order it. I dont know if the big box carries it or not. You also may be able to order it from www.terminalhobby.com
good luck, sounds kinda cool.If you find the other arm,you could stick it out by the road with a lil sign on it that says Will Tile For Food
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Unread 01-11-2003, 08:17 AM   #3
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Nice quip at the end there Todd, I have to laugh at those guys. I've actually tried to hire a couple of them. I had about 100 12' sheets of 5/8" drywall on the trailer & there was two of 'em actually arguing over who had the right to beg on that particular on-ramp. Both looked fairly healthy, so I pulls off & offers both gaiinful employment for a couple of hrs, unloadin the trlr & packin all that rock downstairs. They took one look & started walkin away. Lazy bums. Me & my partner ended up havin to do it all ourselves.
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Ummmmm...a thin layer of Bondo and some automotive paint?(green for the thumb of course!)
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Interesting, Diane..........

How about this??

Remember a few years back the technique used for table tops (bar tops), pictures, etc. It was called decoupage, I think. The final coating was poured on thickly.....a plastic resin, I believe. I think the closest thing today would be a good spar urethane. Or maybe a two part resin (marine resin).

Maybe Sonnie knows of something...??

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Unread 01-11-2003, 03:14 PM   #7
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Is Sonnie late for work again? You gonna write him up, John?
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Unread 01-11-2003, 04:43 PM   #8
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Sonnie just called. He had a flat and then ran out of gas.
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Unread 01-11-2003, 04:53 PM   #9
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Sonnie actually had some work today (I'm tired of being off), problem is I'm so darned good that I finished it in 3 1/2 hours, so the pay ain't so hot. All I had to do was fix some scratches in a hardwood floor that the TILING CONTRACTOR left behind when he drug the appliances from the kitchen, thro' the dining room. No big deal, all I had to do was spot-sand it, stain it, then somehow match the sheen of the original floor, which in this case was 10 year old alkyd urethane. I was hoping it would take me a full 8 hours...

Anyway, I'm curious... don't know that I've seen a plaster manequin. Not that they weren't made that way once. If it's cracking and has play in it, it sounds like it could be reinforced plaster.

Initially I thought about bondo, since you mentioned auto finishes, but it could be messy and difficult to work with around fingers, etc. Better bet would be Synco's exterior spackling compound. It sands much easier and has a lot more working time.

Sealing then becomes the next big issue. I'd probably opt for a premium latex primer and finish, or elastomeric coating. Moorlastic® 100% Acrylic Elastomeric Waterproof Coating - Low Lustre 055, available from Benjamin Moore would do well. It can be tinted. Contact your local BM store or www.benjaminmoore.com for details. This stuff will shrink/swell with the different materials in use for patching, will also form an absolute water-tight finish so you may not need to worry about taking it in for the winter. Elasto's don't work as easily as pure latex products, however. Sanding is nearly impossible, but for this application, that may not be a matter. I'd opt initially for the second option...

If you'd like to control the sheen and colour to a wider degree, have a better degree of finish sheen, I'd suggest a latex system, beginning with Benjamin Moore Fresh Start® All Purpose 100% Acrylic Primer #023. Two coats over the entire structure (it'll bite the plaster and the spackle both), then a coat or two of VERY tintable Latex exterior finish available in several sheen levels. This option would give you better colour/sheen levels to accomplish varying degrees of artisanship.

Finally, is the epoxy fix. If wind resitance is an issue where this arm is out hanging, the Synco/bondo fixes mentioned above may not be the very best. At this phase, we'd go epoxy resin bonding, priming, then a latex finish.

Hope this confuses you enough. It's a really cool project and it'll turn out great no matter what route you take. Right now I have linguine and clams to deal with. There goes today's wages, but hey, what's life without good food and cheap wine, huh?

best of all,

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but hey, what's life without good food and cheap wine, huh?

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Life IS good food and cheap wine. Wait, there was another component. Let me think.

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How'd that Tom T. Hall song go? Something about Watermelon wine, puppy dogs and I love you.
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Tom T (hey, maybe that stands for Tuttle....) Hall wrote "I Like Beer". I'm sure there were many others, but that's the one I remember.
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Who did the one about younger wimmen, older whiskey, more money, and faster cars?

Me, I like that one.
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I was off by a bit found his home page, I have to spend some time there. http://www.tthproject.com/tthall/index.html I'll bet Sonnie would enjoy him.

I was sittin' in Miami pourin' blended whiskey down
When this old gray Black gentleman was cleanin' up the lounge

There wasn't anyone around 'cept this old man and me
The guy who ran the bar was watchin' "Ironsides" on TV
Uninvited, he sat down and opened up his mind
On old dogs and children and watermelon wine

"Ever had a drink of watermelon wine?" he asked
He told me all about it, though I didn't answer back
"Ain't but three things in this world that's worth a solitary dime,
But old dogs and children and watermelon wine."

He said, "Women think about they-selves, when menfolk ain't around.
And friends are hard to find when they discover that you're down."
He said, "I tried it all when I was young and in my natural prime;
Now it's old dogs and children and watermelon wine."

"Old dogs care about you even when you make mistakes;
God bless little children while they're still too young to hate."
When he moved away I found my pen and copied down that line
'Bout old dogs and children and watermelon wine.

I had to catch a plane up to Atlanta that next day
As I left for my room I saw him pickin' up my change
That night I dreamed in peaceful sleep of shady summertime
Of old dogs and children and watermelon wine.
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