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Unread 04-24-2012, 07:23 AM   #16
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The other side of the walls is another room (also tiled).This is not a commercial job.It is a high end residential.The homeowners are from Houston (big time Exxon people) and wanna get in for leisure ASAP.

Fortunately,this is just their "vacation" home.Im sitting here in my office makin calls with my fingers crossed

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Unread 04-24-2012, 07:32 AM   #17
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Long as alla pipe is PVC or ABS I don't think the acid would do any harm to the plumbing. Whether it'll actually "melt" the clog is a serious question, though.

Good that it worked in Davy's case, but if you've got a serious concrete plug in there I doubt it's gonna clear with just the acid. Might make enough room around it for liquid to pass, but I'm thinkin' you'll still have a problem with the solids.

I'd certainly be willing to try it before I started chippin' concrete, though.

You on a municipal sewer system or individual septic system there? The acid will certainly impact the operation of a traditional septic tank if you pewt very much in there.

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Unread 04-24-2012, 08:16 AM   #18
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Not sure,CX.Good point,though.

OK.Best case scenario for jackhammering-deep incisions made with 12" diamond blade(or bigger).This would hinder furthur fractures I would think.

If this needs to happen,Ive requested concrete guys fill in 3/4'' below surface level so I can float to a level surface.

Now I have an issue with cold joints.How should I address this "correctly".

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Unread 04-24-2012, 08:17 AM   #19
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I'm not a pro, just an engineer, but I have a couple of ideas.

Is there some sort of high pressure water jet that can be inserted into the pipe? Don't know if anything exists. I would imagine it does but the spray blowback might cause some issues with that nicely finished room.

Second idea is a high powered suction truck. Cap the lines elsewhere if possible then try to suck the concrete out or at least to a location where it can be visible and possibly removed by hand.

Again, no idea if either suggestion is feasible. Just throwing stuff out there.
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Unread 04-24-2012, 08:57 AM   #20
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I think you've got to bite the bullet and plan for a tear-out. What if some of it unclogs but it still shrinks the diameter of the pipe? The last thing you want is to be tearing it out when they are living there.
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Unread 04-24-2012, 11:00 AM   #21
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Hope it works out for you LT.

Here is a major disaster for you. But at least they cleaned the concrete up before it got hard, unlike your situation.

You will love the picture of a flood of concrete in the middle of a high end restaurant. The construction site was 5 stories above.


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Unread 04-24-2012, 11:46 AM   #22
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Wow, I have no suggestions but I hope you get that fixed ASAP!
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Unread 04-24-2012, 01:33 PM   #23
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So, how far down the line is the clog?
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Unread 04-24-2012, 01:49 PM   #24
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I was just thinking the same thing as Richie. What if the clog is down in the stack someplace? Have they positively figured out where it is? There is no trap under the toilet.
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Unread 04-24-2012, 01:52 PM   #25
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Id plan to cut it out.

Remove tiles needed, cut the slab and remove. When pour the new mud, id leave enough room for ditra so you can tile to the green concrete and do a soft joint around the new work.

Sucks, but if you bill right it could be a nice little repair.

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Unread 04-24-2012, 05:00 PM   #26
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Try some food grade hydrochloric acid
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Unread 04-24-2012, 05:09 PM   #27
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I wouldn't even entertain his idea of having you come and remove tile.
your done with your part.

tell him to call you when he's done and you will give him a price to get it
back to how you had finished it previously.

you will just be wasting your valuable time with all the details that HE should be doing.
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What Brian JB and Richie done said.
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Unread 04-26-2012, 03:19 PM   #29
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Havent heard anything yet.Hopefully the acid worked.Id much rather this thread ends like yhis rather than a bunch of nasty demo pics

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Davy's method with the Muriatic acid worked for the GC on a Super America project oh 8 or 8 years back....The Muriatic was allowed to soak in over the weekend and then a power washer with Hot hot water was used...Every floor drain had concrete in it.....I would say the guys who did the screed work were having a Bad day, were in a hurry, didn't cap them or whatever.

I never saw that happen again to that GC.Once was enough I guess!!
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