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Unread 02-25-2012, 12:55 PM   #16
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I've always grouted changes of plane. Never had an issue with it and will continue to do so until I see reason not to. I always tell customers to call me right away if a crack develops and I'll come fix it.

Only place I've had issues is between a backsplash and counter top. Needs to be caulked there.

I've grouted changes of plane plenty of times with Kera-poxy. Never had any problems with it.
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I am the guiltiest corner grouter in the business. Been doing it for decades.
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Unread 02-27-2012, 09:23 AM   #18
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I am guilty of going behind Old guys like John and Fixing all the cracks at every change of plane they ever grouted that started on an Outside wall.
Now, that said, Keep in mind that Freeze thaw extremes are far different in Northern Minnesota than in Houston Texas.

The guy who convinced people that Grout with additives Will make up for expansion and contraction was a Brilliant marketing guy but he did little in the long run for customer confidence.

Just because those ol guys didnt get called back does not mean it did not crack!!

Make the call after the crack and its just More work....Sanded caulks work well where minimal expansion takes place but if expansion approaches an 1/8: the sanded caulk WILL FAIL!!
Silicone or Urethane is best under this circumstance IMHO...
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Unread 02-27-2012, 10:24 AM   #19
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Unread 02-27-2012, 06:01 PM   #20
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Inside Corners, Circular - shower or tub spout, nary a crack at all with Epoxy.

I dunno about sand/unsanded.

Still hoping someone with Urethane can shed some *in the field* insight on it's behavior
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Unread 02-27-2012, 07:35 PM   #21
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In this area a house can just about change address because of a phenomenon called yazoo clay. There's no real way to deal with it. Cutting out the vein and hauling in fill dirt helps some but the house will still move.

Because of this we caulk every plane change and many times still have to return to recaulk.

We cut lathe and train the mud in the corners cause if we don't the house will move so much that a terrible looking crack that runs on a 45 degree angle will develop. Better to have four independent walls than to have that nasty crack.

The silicone grout match has been a great addition to our arsenal of crack remedies.

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Unread 03-25-2012, 01:28 PM   #23
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I caulk all backsplashes at the countertops. I will caulk all shower and tub walls and walls to floor or tub if I can get a caulk that will match the grout color closely. Sometimes I have to grout them though.
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