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Unread 07-22-2002, 01:31 PM   #1
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I'm going to be like Dave over at the "Canton Master bath project".

I'll use this thread for questions and progress related to the "Lundgren Master Suite" project only. ( http://home1.gte.net/res00rv2/pics/pics.htm )

We are making progress on the project and my many thanks to all who have bailed me out on some of my other dilemmas ("Tub Decks" and "Shower Walls and Floor").

We have just finished the waterproofing and have started setting tile. I have a question about "Outside" corners. I have many "Outside corners", most of which will be nice bullnosed tiles resulting in a nice edge. Some of my corners are cut edges where it would be impossible to put a Bullnose. Is there a nice way to clean those edges? See picture at: http://home1.gte.net/res00rv2/pics/Outside Corner.jpg

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Unread 07-22-2002, 02:40 PM   #2
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I am not sure what you are doing here, Are you wanting to use a full tile?Why cant you use a bullnose?
There is an option called a jolly out.This would mean cutting the edge of your tile at a 45 degree bevel (both tiles where they meet.)This will require a wet saw( a good one) and some practice if you have never done it.Also a good rubbing stone for smoothing your cuts.I still do not understand why you cant use a bullnose though.Is there a design to your tile work?Something i am missing?
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Yes, there is a design to the tile. We have a border around the perimeter of the tiled walls that is a "Diamond / Triangle" shaped pattern, like this:

http://home1.gte.net/res00rv2/pics/edge.jpg

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Unread 07-22-2002, 03:19 PM   #4
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Ok,Now i get it. You will have to use a jolly out here. Bevel the edge of the tile to a 45 degree angle.smooth with your tile stone.45 the other side and smooth this.leave about an 1/8" in the corner for grout.(I always grout these types of corners first thing with a lil grout w extra latex added to it.Then grout the rest as normal.)
Be sure to smooth those cuts.jagged corners are very unsightly.This is where a pattern becomes a bit tedious
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Dale,

If you do the mitering on a factory edge, it'll look decent. Leave a little meat on the edge -- a sixteenth or so. Basically, it's just a miter whose pieces are left far enough apart to hold a grout joint.

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Well, here's the deal. I like the 45° idea, quite a bit actually, but, I already have some done without the mitered joint. What do ya think? a little hand finessing?

I need to start asking advice BEFORE I jump in
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Unread 07-22-2002, 04:35 PM   #8
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In that case, I would continue. When the job is done, find some enamel (real enamel) paint that compliments the surface. None of the corners will be in the wet area (where it would not work).

An electric grinder/sander will touch up cut edges.
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Thanks John - "You da man"

Enamel it will be this time, Miters next time.
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Unread 07-23-2002, 06:31 AM   #10
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Yes John, Jolly out!!! The tile industry actually has a name for it (you know they name everything)I dont know who came up with it,it sounds stupid ,but nonetheless they market(yes actually market ) a 45 degree mitered trim piece called a (you guessed it) JOLLY OUT. In Fact Several companies mfg them. Ask Dave,He'll confirm
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Some progress. This is starting to get a little more exciting.

Is it bad when you start enjoying thinset drying on your fingers?

http://home1.gte.net/res00rv2/pics/pics.htm

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Dale,

There are only two bad things in this business: one is getting caught with a "Homer" bucket; and the other is promising a beer and showing up with something else.

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Ok, I took care of "Homer" & I'll buy you a Miller when you make your way back up here (if they still sell those around here )

Hey, in my business (software), Homers are a sign of effluence or something like that?



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Unread 07-30-2002, 08:40 PM   #14
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Hi Guys...

I'm using Daltile tiles in our bath area (walls). It is the "Goldrush" series, purchased from a Daltile wholesaler in our area (Not H*** D****!). What is up with the size tolerances on these tiles? I'm seeing differences of up to 1/8" on a 6X6" tile. Is this normal? If I get two "big" ones stacked on each other (1/8" + 1/8" = 1/4" ) I might as well throw out using spacers.

Any ideas?

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Unread 07-31-2002, 06:14 AM   #15
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Dale,

It's not unusual to have tiles that aren't calibrated well. It's "artistic."

You have to use shims to augment your spacers. Blend the tiles from several boxes to get a good spread. That's it.
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