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Unread 01-22-2020, 06:18 AM   #1
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Installed shower tile in wrong sequence

Sure wish I had found this forum before I started my shower tiling project. But I didn't. :-(

So, I installed a Kerdi shower kit and started tiling. But I did the walls first, starting at the pan and worked up. While researching something else I came across all the posts that said do the floor first and then the walls, or at least leave the bottom row of the wall off until the floor is done.

Thus my question, what kind of trouble am I in if I continue with installing the wall tile and do the floor last?
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Unread 01-22-2020, 06:31 AM   #2
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You'll hafta tear your house down and rebuild.

Actually, there is no such requirement, you'll be fine. I often build my Kerdi showers in this manner.
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Unread 01-22-2020, 07:22 AM   #3
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Greg-

Thanks for the quick reply. Needless to say, that is a relief to hear. When I started this project I wasn't concerned about it until I watched a video and the guy explained that you needed to leave a 1/8 inch gap between the floor tile and wall to allow for expansion and that would then be hidden by the wall tile. Guess that really isn't an issue.

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Unread 01-22-2020, 08:22 AM   #4
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Mell, have you got the floor waterproofed yet? Can you post a picture of what you have done so far?
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Unread 01-22-2020, 09:03 AM   #5
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For some reason I am unable to download photos from my phone to the laptop so will try to describe where I am at. I used the Schluter Kerdi system to create the shower enclosure. That is, the walls are cement board covered with the Kerdi membrane, the pan is the pre-formed foam Kerdi shower pan and then all corners and seams were covered with the membrane. The wall tile is 8x24 ceramic which goes all the way to the bottom of the shower walls so no room to slide the floor tile under it. The floor tile is penny round which will have to just butt up against the wall tile with a grout line between. That is unless I break up that bottom row of wall tile to remove it, lay the floor tile, and then cut and re-install the bottom row of wall tile so it covers the edge of the floor tile. Make sense? But from what Greg posted, it sounds like there is no problem with just leaving the wall tile and laying the floor so it butts up against the wall.

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Unread 01-22-2020, 11:29 AM   #6
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Right. Basically I was trying to determine if you had waterproofed the floor and tied it into the waterproofing on the walls. If you have, there's no problem.

I usually do the tile in the floor last.
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Unread 01-22-2020, 05:06 PM   #7
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I'm a tile floor last kinda guy also Mel. No worries
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Yep, as long as all the membrane seams have at least a 2” overlap (as Kevin is enquiring), you’re completely waterproof.


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Thanks for al the input. Obviously relieved to know that I don't have to tear out some tile. Now I can get some sleep tonight! :-)
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Unread 01-22-2020, 10:29 PM   #10
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What size are your floor tiles? Schluter pre-formed trays have a minimum tile size requirement of 2" x 2"
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Welcome to the forum, tm. I’m going to have to respectfully disagree with your statement. Unless Schluter has recently changed their long-standing position, there is not a 2”x2” minimum size requirement on their foam trays. That’s a minimum for their Ditra uncoupling membrane.
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Man, I hope there isn't a minimum size requirement for the pre-formed trays. My wife has chosen 3/4" penny tile for the floor and that was a major decision I don't want to have to revisit! Will re-visit the Schluter site just to be sure but I don't recall seeing anything like that in all the Schluter info I have seen.
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Maybe this will help.
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Unread 01-25-2020, 05:37 PM   #14
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I don't think there is a minimum on floor tile dimensions.

As for your problem, you should be fine. A lot of people build them in this order anyways.
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Yeah, I've been doing it wrong (floor last) for over 40 years and didn't know it.
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