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Unread 08-17-2019, 11:53 PM   #46
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The bag you show is Versabond LTF which is for large tiles. You can get regular white Versabond at Home Depot.
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Unread 08-18-2019, 06:04 AM   #47
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Following up to Davy and CX post; I’ve posted a link to the Versabond at HomeDepot.

https://www.homedepot.com/b/Flooring...n-set%20mortar
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Unread 08-18-2019, 06:26 AM   #48
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PC7060. The link you posted doesn't help. It shows all the different versabonds. I need to know which one specific to use. Thanks
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Unread 08-18-2019, 06:34 AM   #49
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C'mon, Paul, that link shows only one VersaBond, in white and in gray.
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Unread 08-18-2019, 07:11 AM   #50
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Not for me, it doesn't. It showing 12 items, including buckets and bags
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Unread 08-18-2019, 07:53 AM   #51
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Ohh boy, I might have bigger problems. My sand mix bed has some loose aggregate at the surface. I mean it's rock hard for the most part, but there is a few spots where, if I run my hand over it, small grains of sand dislodge, not chunks, but small grains. Can I thinset over this, and stick the floor, or did I screw this up royally.
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Look at the link again, Paul. You'll see only two bags that say just VersaBond on'em. One white, one gray. You won't see that name on any of the other buckets or bags. Don't know how PC coulda been any more helpful.

You might wanna vacuum the top of your mud bed, but I think it's likely you could simply set your tiles on what you've got.
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Unread 08-18-2019, 08:10 AM   #53
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Thanks CX. I kinda felt goofy when I realized that there was only 2 bags with versabonds on it. I went and bought a bag of the regular, not LFT. Now, when I do my tile, which is 12x24, I need the LFT, correct?
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Unread 08-18-2019, 09:43 AM   #54
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Yes, you'll be able to use the LTF on the 12x24 tiles.
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Unread 08-18-2019, 10:32 AM   #55
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Dry pack (deck mud) is purposely made poor (very little cement) and dry so it'll be porous. That way it will absorb any water that gets thru the floor tiles. Water flows easily thru dry pack mud and allows the water to make it's way to the weep holes in the drain. I usually slick my dry pack down with a trowel after I get it in place which gives it a harder crust on top. Like Cx said, you can run a vacuum over it if you want and if it still wants to erode a little, you can skim coat the floor with thinset. It won't ever be as hard as your driveway, a little gritty on the surface is normal.
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Unread 08-18-2019, 05:58 PM   #56
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Well my first try and tiling a river rock floor went over like a fart in church.

I did my shower pan with sakrete sand mix, called sakrete and they said it was a premix 4:1 sand :Portland. I mixed the snot out of it while adding water. Maybe I didn't add enough, but made snowballs, then when I thumbs them, they would break, rub my hands together, and it wouldn't leave smears.

Did pan yesterday, due to unforseen circumstances, it took me about 25 hours from finishing pan until I started smearing thinset. Used the versatile thinset, not the LFT, but regular fortified, white bag.

When I started buttering the pan, thinset wouldn't stick, and rolled and collected loose sand. Pulled out small chunks of pan. On part of pan, it did good, but other parts it pulled up small chunks, approx 1/4 to 3/8 deep of the pan. I realized something wasn't right, (not like what I saw on YouTube, and aborted. Used scrapper to get what I had spread up. Threw it back in bucket. After done, bucket looks like cookies and cream ice cream

How bad did I screw up? Can I just thinset the to with non modified, soupy mix, or should I just bring the house down?
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Unread 08-18-2019, 06:18 PM   #59
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If the mud is 4 to 1 then it has plenty of cement in it. It might have been a little too dry or maybe not packed well enough. Again, slicking it down with a flat trowel after you placed it would have helped. If the sand is rolling up when you spread the thinset then you may have to redo the mudbed.
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It's just in a few spots, and those spots, it's maybe 3/8" deep then it's hard as a rock. I think I didn't get it wet enough. I packed the snot outta it.
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