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Unread 07-30-2010, 02:28 PM   #16
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Company: Floor Factors - Portland OR and Matt helped us.

12x12 American Olean Treymont Willow (Porcelain) 1.05 sq/ft
12x3 American Olean Treymont Willow Bullnose (Porcelain) 2.32/ea
1x1 American Olean Gemma Blends Mink (Glass) 11.05 sq/ft
2x2 Dal Tile GoldRush Wheatland (Porcelain) 3.52 sq/ft

You can see the prices and the pictures. We think we got a good deal. I don't know anything about the DC area but these tile company's sell across the US so there is a good chance you can do what we did if you want to.. In fact Several come up in MD and VA 6 miles from DC zip codes for American Olean and DalTile. Go to the websites and start call'n.. If you don't get quotes similar to mine, you're getting ripped off.


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Unread 08-05-2010, 07:37 AM   #17
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Surface Source Sahara Beige from Lowes

These tiles are currently on sale at lowes for about 67c/sq ft. Any experience with this tile?
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Unread 08-06-2010, 04:01 PM   #18
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Any Experience with these tiles?

Sorry I'm posting this in a new thread but my subsequent questions in another thread seems not to elicit any responses probably because of the title of my original post. Has anyone had any experience with Elias porcelain tile. It's the Elias Seine tile in cream or beige. Also, I saw surface source tile in sahara beige at Lowes the other day. Are they any good?
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Unread 08-06-2010, 04:44 PM   #19
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I have done a floor with those surface source tiles you speak of. They cut well with my score cutter and the wet saw. They were directional so you have to pay attention to that when installing. They were not the best looking tiles, maybe ok for a rental.


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Unread 08-13-2010, 12:16 PM   #20
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Is a 1/4 inch thick glass shower door too thin?

I'm considering the Kohler fluence frameless bypass shower door that is 1/4" thick. Will this be okay for my master bath or do I need to go up to 3/8" thick. As always, thanks for your good work.
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Unread 08-13-2010, 12:23 PM   #21
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Tempered glass is pretty tough stuff. thicker has more heft, and is stronger, but it's hard to break either unless you hit it with something sharp. You car window glass is likely thinner than 1/4" (except maybe for the windshield).

That being said, I'm not thrilled with my Kohler door after about 10-years...it is a painted (white) frame and the paint is coming off in places. I put in one from Century Glass at my mother's house, and was very impressed with the hardware and construction. If I ever get too annoyed with the Kohler, I'll probably go with one of theirs for mine.
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Unread 08-16-2010, 11:35 AM   #22
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Please Help me convince my Dear Husband

that a tiled shower floor is not the most catastrophic thing in the world. The plumber/tile guy starts demolishing tomorrow so I only have today to convince him. It's a 48X34 shower floor and dh wants us another shower pan to replace the one currently there. He thinks tiled shower floors will eventually leak, the grout will discolor, the tile will crack and all sorts of worst possible scenarios one can think of. When I got tired of arguing, I went online to search for shower floors and the Kohler kathryn, which I like is quite expensive and does not come in the size of our shower floor. Please help. Thanks.
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Unread 08-16-2010, 11:43 AM   #23
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I don't know what we could possibly say that will convince your DH. I will say this from my own experience. I built a mud bed shower floor and installed kerdi membrane over that. I then tiled it with 2x2 tile and grouted with Spectralock epoxy grout. The floor looks as good today as it did 3 years ago when I finished it.

A properly installed tile shower (including floor) will not suffer from the maladies you have described. In fact, there are installers on this site who guarantee their showers for 10 years and more.

If that doesn't work, I'll always think it should have.
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Unread 08-16-2010, 11:54 AM   #24
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Once I started using the Kerdi system for waterproofing my showers, I also started giving a lifetime guarantee. Its been over a decade now and there has not been one failure.

Be sure your DH knows that tile and grout and sealant and cement board are NOT waterproof. That is why most of the showers leak. A properly installed shower will not leak long after the tile goes out of fashion.

Oh and don't use a preformed pan either.

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Unread 08-16-2010, 12:00 PM   #25
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I guarantee Kerdi shower to be leak-free for life. The only maintenance I advise my customers to do is to wipe down the shower with a towel once a day after the last use.

So many showers are built improperly with the liner installed flat on the subfloor and cut in various places that they are going to leak and/or hold water from day one.

A properly installed shower will not leak and will dry out quickly, reducing the chances of mold and mildew. A proper shower that is towel-dried daily will not likely require any other maintenance.

The vast majority of the water makes its way down the drain and the rest evaporates and/or is pulled out of the bathroom by a proper exhaust fan. The water that makes its way down the drain comes in contact with the floor and/or the lower part of the walls. These areas are particularly susceptible to mold and mildew and if not properly constructed will retain water. This is the most common reason that showers look dingy and dirty after a short time.

Contact a tile installer that knows his stuff to have your shower installed like it should be. If you want to check his knowledge of shower construction, you can educate yourself with the information in the "Liberry". The link for is in the blue nav bar above.

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