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Unread 12-09-2007, 10:34 AM   #3226
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That's pretty sad lookin', Trask.

Glad it didn't get your people or your house.
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Unread 12-09-2007, 10:38 AM   #3227
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At the bottom end of my property is the fire dept..they had to cut there way out..(interesting message on the radio half way through the storm ..they said "your on your own folks...no 911 or emergency services are currently available in Clatsop county")

Next shot is across the road from my porperty at my son's bus stop.
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Unread 12-09-2007, 10:42 AM   #3228
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It didn't get my peoples but it got the corner of the house
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Wow, looks like a Hurricane hit.
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Unread 12-09-2007, 10:58 AM   #3230
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Good to see everybody's ok.
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Unread 12-09-2007, 11:02 AM   #3231
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So glad you and your people are OK, Trask. Boy, that first picture sure looks like SC after Hurricane Hugo hit several years back. Hard to believe wind can do so much damage.
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Unread 12-09-2007, 11:22 AM   #3232
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I feel for you Trask, glad you and your family are safe.

we had those 3 Hurricanes hit us a few years back and the top wind speeds reported can be astonishing. your trees up there are probably a lot better routed then in the sand down here, ours get ripped right outta the ground. you should see the damage down here .
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Unread 12-09-2007, 01:43 PM   #3233
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Good to see things getting back to normal. How were the old timers comparing this to the Columbus Day storm of early 60's I know up this way we had a lot more damage from wind then but down you way it looks like this storm may have been worse.
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Unread 12-09-2007, 02:39 PM   #3234
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Are these blows simply from high winds, or is there usually a storm center out there someplace? I mean we never get winds like that unless a hurricane is near, and a hurricane always has a name.

Storms in the Pacific used to be called cyclones. Is that still the case?
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Unread 12-09-2007, 02:52 PM   #3235
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John,

I presume those were gusts, as opposed to sustained winds. If they were sustained, it would have been a named storm of sort.
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Dan, they've never called them hurricanes up here, usually "gales" or technically "extratropical cyclones" or "mid-latitude cyclones", and they don't give them names here. The NWS actually issued their first ever "hurricane warning" for the PNW for this storm which actually began as a typhoon, or actually pair of typhoons - Typhoon Mitag and Typhoon Hagibis. What made this storm particularly bad was the duration which blew for 40 to 60 hours versus the typical 4 to 6 hours.

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Unread 12-09-2007, 03:03 PM   #3237
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Thanks, Don. I almost made it through the week without learning something new.
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Unread 12-09-2007, 03:29 PM   #3238
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Dan, I'm not sure now about the sustained wind values although in the Columbus day storm (1962) sustained at places was 130+ with gusts to 170+.

The Columbus Day storm is the benchmark everything is measured against. In 12 hours it took down between 10 and 15 BILLION board feet of timber: wikipedia on Columbus Day storm

It's premature to judge but some folks are already suggesting that this storm was worse than Columbus Day in terms of damage because of the duration of the winds. The cyclone just sort of hung offshore while the jetstream peeled off an arm and shot it straight at the coast.

The Storm King site has writeups on all the historical storms here including this latest with a number of photos.

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sounds like Hurricane Andrew down here in 1992 top winds were at 175 mph with a gust recorded at 212 mph.
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Back in 62 what I remember the most was 1. being without power for almost a week and the damage to the trees out in the woods. There would be whole hill sides with every tree blown down like little sticks. Looked like the pictures of the woods after the Mt. St. Helens blast.
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