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05-27-2010, 10:47 PM
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Re-doing one bathroom turned into two - as they were back to back and both needed to be gutted to redo all of the rotting copper DWV...
I'm finishing up the small secondary one first - using free leftover tile. Blew the budget on the first bathroom, lol
And yea...I roughed in the shower valve a lil off center...damnit
Here is the bathroom that I started this project to do - the whole room will get a continuous mud floor and Kerdi throughout. It will be a curbless 'walkthrough' shower wih a frameless wall of glass. The tub will be IN the shower area.
The plan:
That coffered ceiling was a PITA, but fun..
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05-27-2010, 10:53 PM
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Tampa Florida Tile Contractor
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I like that shower floor and diagonal drain design in the 3rd pic..sweet.
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05-27-2010, 11:02 PM
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wd-40? you must have a MK
Nice work and design!
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05-27-2010, 11:08 PM
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nice kyle keep us posted!
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05-27-2010, 11:09 PM
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Thanks Brian - I was about to cut notches in all 4 (8) tiles but then I realized - hey dumbass just turn the schluter drain 90 degrees and clip the corners like you would for any diagonal inset tile..notches woulda looked like crap.
As for the WD40 - I wish I had an MK, lol...just a cheapo Husky. I'm not a pro just a guy who dabbles in everything. The WD40 was for my miter saw. I took that pic after finished the 350+ piece coffered ceiling.
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05-27-2010, 11:26 PM
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rite. I don't believe that for a second. You been around awhile who you kidding?
thats also very functional layout. im stealing your designs you know..
Make sure to post some finished pics!
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05-28-2010, 06:57 AM
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Hershey Pennsylvania Tile Contractor
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Quote:
posted by kyle
I took that pic after finished the 350+ piece coffered ceiling.
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You took the easy way out, yes if you were a pro you woulda put tile up in the coffered ceiling, instead of trim.....lol What made you do the ceiling like that with so many sections, jus curious. Nice looking so far
Yes that shower floor, great design, never seen one like that!
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05-28-2010, 09:14 AM
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thanks. the coffered ceiling is just for aesthetic. It is an old concept found in alot of old elaborate buildings. Sometimes octagons are used instead of squares - especially in domed ceilings such as the US Capitol Bldg. About 200 of those 350 pcs were in the brackets I made out of plywood and glued/nailed to the ceiling.
Before I drywalled I had to furr down the ceiling with hat channel and shim all of the points where the hat channel met the joists - the joists were no where near flat and would have made getting that molding tight impossible. Think of it as a mud bed for the ceiling, lol.
oh - and I peeled off that vapor barrier because Kerdi is going on most of that wall.
As for the shower floor - that is a purely functonal design choice. Four square tiles just cant be pitched AND keep the perimeter flat - physically impossible. So, I figured I'd just cut them on the diagonal and reassemble so that they matched the pitch of the Kerdi tray. That is actually the reason I used the Kerdi tray - their trays are 4 triangular planes that intersect insteadof cone shaped like my (and most) mudbeds tend to turn out.
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05-28-2010, 12:53 PM
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Oregon Tile Man
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Kyle great Project..Really love the approach you took with that shower floor.
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05-28-2010, 02:12 PM
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South East PA Tile Contractor
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Kyle,
nice work! I tried to use a mag when I mud just can't do it.
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05-28-2010, 02:17 PM
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what do you use rick? an aluminum float? or do you just not use a float at all?
I do the initial spreading and packing with a pool trowel, then hit it with the mag float a few times, screed it off, and smooth and final compaction with the mag float. if I have defects i sprinkle more mud on and touch up with a wood float or the mag float.
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05-28-2010, 02:24 PM
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I have a wood block like you do, I use a steel trowel to pack. I use the edge to mag it off. If theres a low spot or I dig I fill it in then re strike with the straight edge. I have seen guys mud floors and not even use a wood block once to rub the mud, its unreal and get them level and flat.
I am not questioning your methods, your work it top notch, I have a mag in my truck i didn't use it enough to appreciate it. It does pack the mud tight though.
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05-28-2010, 02:32 PM
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Oregon Tile Man
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Long time ago we fastened a Marshalltown handle to a 3cm square block of 3cm polished Black Granite to use in place of a mag float for packing and rough carving dry pack. Worked great as it never deformed or absorbed and it stayed flat. It really packed deck mud tight and to me that made it easier to carve and shape more accurately with the wood float. I wish I could find the pics of it.
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05-28-2010, 02:37 PM
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hmm..interesting. I thought everyone used mag/aluminum floats..
I guess I just like how stiff it is compared to just a steel trowel and the contoured bottom mean I practically never dig in. Like I said - im not actually a tile pro so I dont do mud very often - I need something I can remember how to use when it has been 6 months or a year since I did it last, lol
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05-28-2010, 02:39 PM
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Oregon Tile Man
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Kyle I've always used mags to pack with too..But I've seen plenty of bent steel packing trowels from some pretty great old guys..Funny how everyone has little preferences.
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