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Old 07-10-2018, 09:35 AM   #31
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But, if you were to put kerdi on the top and front of the bench, then use kerdi band to seal it to the already kerdi'd walls, water won't get down between the wall and bench to get into the holes, no?
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Old 07-10-2018, 09:47 AM   #32
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That would be correct, Dan, and that's the way I install my Better Bench fixtures.
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Old 07-10-2018, 12:13 PM   #33
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Wait...there's more than one way to build a waterproof shower?
Thanks everyone. Both approaches makes sense to me
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Old 07-10-2018, 01:07 PM   #34
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So Dan and CX - do you walk all over your Kerdy floor as you tile the walls, niche, bench? Should I be concerned about doing that?
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Were I doing a Kerdi shower I would not even install the drain until the walls and ceiling were tiled except for the bottom row or so of wall tiles. Possibly grouted, too.

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Peter,

Since I'm just a DIY hack, and don't do this for a living (I'd surely starve), yup, but I'd cover it with the aforementioned layers of cardboard. I'm not talented/confident enough in my abilities so I'd prefer to tile the floor first.
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Dan - I'm like you, a weekend DIYer, but I do like CX's approach whereby I'm not worried about dinging-up my floor as I tile and grout the rest of the shower. Where I'm less confident is in my ability to determine exactly how much space to leave at the bottom for my initial wall tile, such that the height of my mud pan and floor tile meets that initial wall row correctly. I'll let you all know what I do and how it goes.
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Peter, in a build like that I always plan such that I need to cut the bottom row of tiles to fit the floor.
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I hear ya Peter, at this point I can only wish I had to contemplate water proofing and the order in which to tile!
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Thanks CX. I like that idea, knowing I'll have to cut some [unknown] amount of the tile leaves me the wiggle room to make it look good.
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Been away for a bit but finally got the rest of my plumbing and wallboard done and then my Kerdi this past weekend. At this point I'm thinking I would install the tile on the back wall (and grout it) up to where I'll install my Better Bench, since it would be hard to do the tiling/grout under the bench if I did that first. Does that make sense or am I going about this wrong? (btw not sure why my photos appear sideways. That's not how I'm seeing the when I attach)
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No reason not to do that, Peter.

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Thanks CX. Quick follow-up question. I understand your previous point about starting my first row of tiles at the bottom such that when the sloped floor is done I'll have less than a full tile to fill in below that. Is the following calculation correct for determining where I'll start that initial first row?
Shower is 3' x 5', therefore with 1/4" slope/foot I'm looking at 1 1/4" slope all around. Do I assume I'll need 1" at the drain (Kerdi drain) and therefore my bottom/final row of tiles (after building the sloped floor) will be 1 1/4" + 1" = 2 1/4" up from the current slab? And then I measure something less than a full tile up from that to start my initial row? Hope that thought process is clear.
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Shower is 3' x 5', therefore with 1/4" slope/foot I'm looking at 1 1/4" slope all around.
Sorry, doesn't compute for me at all, Peter. Perhaps I don't understand what you mean by "1 1/4" slope." You need a minimum of 1/4" fall per horizontal foot from the farthest point from your drain. I calculate that distance to be just a tad shy of three feet. What am I missing?
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My mistake - was using the full 5' for the calculation. You're correct, the longest run to the drain is about 3', so the math would be 1" at the drain plus 3/4" for the slope, right? That would be the bottom of the first wall/vertical tile, correct?
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