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Unread 04-17-2021, 11:37 PM   #1
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Looking for a contractor to do a shower remodel (Orange County, CA)

Well, not really a "remodel" per se. It appears our shower was built incorrectly and probably requires a rebuild. So I'm looking for someone to "do it right" and I was recommended to this forum by someone at terrylove.
I tried linking to the full thread describing my issue, but I'm not allowed to posts links yet.

Long story short - I'm looking for a good contractor to do the shower rebuild. I'm in Orange County, California.

Thanks in advance!
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Unread 04-17-2021, 11:55 PM   #2
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Welcome to the forum, Danny.

Let’s get your thread moved over to the Pro’s Hangout for more visibility.

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Unread 04-18-2021, 07:02 AM   #3
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Hi Danny

Good friend out there in Costa Mesa, not sure where exactly you are. Shaun Haley Tile & Stone (949) 642-7610

If ya get ahold of him tell him JD sent ya
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JD - that number has been disconnected
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Hey Danny, I also live in OC and I was looking for contractors to rebuild my shower due to some problems with it.

To my dismay, I've found that "do it right" around here meant using "hot mop" for shower waterproofing. If you look around the board, the general recommendation for shower waterproofing is Schluter Kerdi-board or similar panels. The only contractor I've found that does them is California Flooring Service - they own the site schlutershowerorangecounty.com . All the other contractors that were referred to me only did hot mop...

I found California Flooring Service after my shower rebuild began, so I can't tell you if they're any good. My shower rebuild hasn't finished yet so I'm not ready to refer my current contractor either.

Good luck!
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Unread 04-22-2021, 06:55 AM   #6
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Welcome, Sherwin.

Nothing at all wrong with a properly executed hot-mop for a shower receptor. And in your area that likely means mud walls, too, which is also a fine method of shower construction.

You'll find a lot of information here on these forums for the use of direct bonded waterproofing membrane showers because they are more suited to DIY construction, but you'll also find lots of information about making traditional mud/liner/mud shower receptors here. Many ways to make a 50-year shower if you just pay attention to the necessary details.

There is certainly no requirement to use hot-mop, even in California, that's just the traditional method out there. Not well suited to the DIYer, though, eh?
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Hi Sherwin,

I worked in California for a number of years back in the 70s and dealt with plenty of hot mopped pans. As far as I'm concerned they are a mess, a needless mess. PVC liners last longer and are neater and easy to use.

But that's just an opinion.
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Is hot mop basically the method where they use tar?
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That's the one, Danny. Not a real good DIY option.
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I have a silly question...I'm originally from Israel and I've never seen any of these liners / tar being used in shower construction. They basically just pour cement. Here's a video I found:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVMOPmDupeQ

Which method is this? Or is it the "incorrect" method?
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That would be incorrect for a number of reasons according to American tile industry standards, Danny, foremost of which would be a complete lack of waterproofing or water containment.
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Sorry for going a bit off topic, but is a frameless shower door less less likely to leak than one with a frame?
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An improperly installed door is what will allow a leak, rather than the type of door.

Choose whichever you like...just make sure it’s properly installed.

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I don't know about water leakage, but I have seen improperly installed shower frames where water accumulated within the frames, and eventually grew mold.
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