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Old 06-07-2018, 02:14 PM   #1
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Price per sq ft break when it's a lot of footage?

Hi everyone,
I'm giving a quote to a General Contractor in 2 hours for a floor thats approx 2100 sq ft. Ive been installing tile for a long time 30+ years and have had my license since 1998 and I'm still 2nd guessing myself about estimating lol. Right now, today, I am just drawing a blank as to what I should start the price per sq ft at. The job is in southern california. it's over a cement slab and I know there are many variables that go into estimating but I'm just trying to come up with a price per sq ft over slab straight layout. At $4.00 sq ft that's $8,400.00. Is that high? and should i include grouting in that $4.00? Please just a few ideas to kick start my brain i would appreciate it. thank you!

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Old 06-07-2018, 02:36 PM   #2
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The older I get the less inclined I am to give breaks. If he sends you a sizeable amount of work then yes I can see helping him out.

Is it wide open or chopped up? Underlayment? What size tile? Prep included?

In the end its what your area will bear and how well you sell yourself. I only get 20% of what I bid at best. Some people see value in experience, others think you smear stuff on the floor and wall so why so much. I never get the jobs of those who think the latter, and quite honestly do not want them.
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Old 06-07-2018, 03:15 PM   #3
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$4.00 seems fair to me and yes the grouting should be included in that price.
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Old 06-07-2018, 05:26 PM   #4
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I left Anaheim in 1980 for the last time and didn't do anything for less than 3.00. a sq ft. when I left. Figure how many days you think it will take and multiply by how much you want to make a day, then add materials and expenses.

I haven't charged as little as 4 bucks in many years and I'm in Texas.
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Old 06-07-2018, 07:46 PM   #5
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It seems like the cheapest job always seem to cost the most. Do you have a helper? are you providing setting materials and grout Do you need the money, are you trying fill your schedule do you have work at your currents prices will you "lose" money doing it for cheaper How long do you think it will take you, Is this guy going to give you more work in the future, do you want to do his work in the future? Remember self leveler is expensive your profits could dwindle quickly
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Old 06-08-2018, 07:58 AM   #6
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The cheapest jobs always cost the most.
This is a great quote, well put
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Old 06-09-2018, 12:11 PM   #7
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New slab or old? How level is it? Curing compounds ontop? Any hydrostatic problems involved? Will it require crack isolation material? Radiant heat in slab? Will it need profiling?(almost all slabs will) What size material will be installed? So many variables involved. Usually on projects like these, the lowest bidder gets the job and makes minimum wage at best.
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Old 06-09-2018, 06:23 PM   #8
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I havenít set floors that cheap since 2001. Iím in the San Francisco Bay Area.
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Old 06-13-2018, 11:48 AM   #9
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I think that was our rate in 1985
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Old 06-22-2018, 01:20 AM   #10
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I realize that I live in a fairly expensive part of the US, but if GCs could get a sqft of tile installed for 4/sqft I am pretty sure they would cover the cost of lodging of the entire crew for the duration.I don't often do residential these days, but it is common to see $1800 or more for a 150 sqft kitchen floor, or even $750-1000 for a 15ft backsplash.

I don't understand anyone on JB recommending $4/sqft, with grouting included, when gas is over $3 per gallon and you will more than likely need to return for the grouting portion of the job. Also, who is responsible for any tiling materials in this scenario?

Finally, I have learnt from experience that there is no perk a GC can offer in exchange for a significant discount, while the end-result typically is the same: they will expect that same discount in the future.
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Old 06-22-2018, 10:07 AM   #11
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I realize that I live in a fairly expensive part of the US...
Bart, if you'd put a geographic location in your User Profile it would appear with each post and make that sort of comment more meaningful.
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Old 06-23-2018, 07:15 AM   #12
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I think that was our rate in 1985
You probably wish your cost of living in Connecticut was 1985

ranks one of the highest in the US

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money...ates/15455129/
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I don't think I have priced by the foot in 10 years.
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I don't think I have priced by the foot in 10 years.
Well don't leave us hanging, how are you bidding them. The suspense is killing me
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Old 06-24-2018, 03:57 AM   #15
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I bid just like the rest of the hacks and jack off"s in my area. I figure what my bills are for the week/month and how much beer, pizza and Marb Lights I need for the weekend ! Works well but I forget gas in the truck sometimes.

(seriously, there are more than a few guys that do this)
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