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Unread 01-23-2020, 08:07 AM   #1
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large format porcelin tile guide

Where can I find the installation guidelines for very large thin porcelin tile on a wood floor. These tiles are 3' x 8'. I suspect this installation iwas not done properly. It was installed over a wood substructure with one layer of cement board and thin set with a 3/8 inch trowel. cant seem to find the guideline in the NTCA manual
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Unread 01-23-2020, 10:46 AM   #2
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Look toward the front of your TCNA Handbook, Fred, page 23 in the 2019 version, under Additional Products Used In Tile Installations. What that's gonna tell you is that there are currently no ASTM, ANSI, or ISO standards for the installation of those Thin Porcelain or Gauged Porcelain Tile Panels. I've been out of touch for a while, but I think that's still the case today.

Perhaps someone else who still attends the national technical committee meetings might be able to provide an update on that.

The usuall tile industry standards for large format tiles would still apply, but the methods and special requirements would be a matter for the tile manufacturers and that's who I'd suggest you contact with your concerns.

From my own experience, which consists entirely of attendance at one manufacturer's (Crossville) training seminar, it ain't your grandfather's tile setting.
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There are both product and installation standards for gauged porcelain tiles/panels. They've been combined into one document by ANSI and it's available through the TCNA:

https://www.tcnatile.com/products-an...d-a108-19.html

A 3/8" trowel isn't the one recommended in the standard and mortar would need to be applied to both the substrate and the back of the tile to have a chance of it being fully supported. The suitability of the substrate would be determined by the deflection. What you are describing would likely not pass the requirements in the standard.
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Thanks, Dan. That doesn't appear in my March 2019 version of ANSI A108.

Still another forty dollar volume to hafta buy?
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cx, TCNA chose to publish the ANSI A118.19 and the GPT product standard ANSI A137.3 in a separate ANSI publication.
https://www.tcnatile.com/products-an...lications.html
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Yeah, I see that, Jim. Makes it tough on those of us who need our crutches to help in answering questions here, but no longer have any tile industry affiliations whereby to score free handbooks and such.
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