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Unread 10-23-2009, 01:39 PM   #1
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Next Gen Durock

Has anyone heard about or tried out this next generation Durock? My understanding is it's supposed to be 1/2 the weight and just as strong as the original?

http://durocknextgen.com/about.html
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Unread 10-23-2009, 02:03 PM   #2
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I think more like 25% less weight and simple score n snap vs the Old bugger

Prob a 1/2 way between EZBOARD and the old durock kinda thing.

I was checking it out this morning and sent info on to shop owner....he liked the looks of it....we'll see about pricing
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Unread 10-23-2009, 03:27 PM   #3
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I saw it in Depot, don't ask why I was there. They pulled permabase and now they carry this stuff. I cuts easily seems strong. Its 7.40 a sheet permabase was the same but I don't understand is the local tile shop carries permabase for 13 a sheet and its 7 at depot how???? How can all the sheets in depot be seconds? Depot now carries Sheetrock brand drywall so I guess they ditched Permabase too. Cause USG makes the Durock.
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Bill, we've been useing it for about 6 months now and i find it great to work with, if we ever had to use a backerboard it was always Durock and now the Next Generation just makes it easier.
Rick, my Home Depot carries durock for just under $8 and my supplier carries it for $12 but i usually get it from my supplier cause at HD they stack it 5 and 6 pallets high and when you get a lower pallet the boards are all bowed and warped and thats a no no.
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Unread 10-23-2009, 04:29 PM   #5
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That's about the kind of prices I get here, too. HD and Lowes are about 3.00 a sheet cheaper than the Dal warehouse in town. They're half the driving distance, too-- definitely a no brainer.
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Rick,

Not everything at depot and lowes are 2nds. Think of the NATIONAL purchasing power behind 1 item. your local shop will buy one truck load of permabase, but depot will commit to 1000 trucks.
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Unread 10-23-2009, 05:27 PM   #7
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I have tried the 2nd gen. I still think it is too dense. In the sense that when I shoot a screw into the board, it chips out with little pieces real bad. Real aggravating when putting board on the ceiling. The Perma base seems to come out as a powder and the 2nd gen comes out in pieces. The 2 gen is lighter, enough to notice when you pick it up. Local tile shops are at $13 and HD is $8. Lowes is in the middle at $10.
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I think Joe hit it on the head as far as HD pricing goes.

Is there any technical data on the product? Must I go to the USG site and search for it?
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I'm sure there is. I've been talking to a rep over at Gardenweb, and I've invited him a couple of times to join us over here.

http://ths.gardenweb.com/forums/load...586775.html?11
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It is rigid, I threw a couple sheets in my truck ontop of some buckets and thought they would snap. Permabase is definetly way stronger. But I use http://www.contractorsdirect.com/Til...Scoring-Cutter one of these and score the Durock twice and snap it like drywall and use a knife to cut the mesh on the back and a rasp or knife to clean the sides up.

I was big on hardibacker but its impossible to cut unless you have shears which I do but then you need to set up sawhorses and run a cord and I'd rather just cut the Mesh type backers right on the ground and not worry about using a cord.
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Unread 10-23-2009, 07:17 PM   #11
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Losing permabase from home depot? - not good. You can still get it at Dal labeled as Dal- board. How is the edge on this board compared to Permabase? And it goes so well with using permacolor grout.

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Unread 10-23-2009, 07:20 PM   #12
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Unread 10-23-2009, 08:10 PM   #13
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My home dept has never had permabase-- only hardi and wonderboard. I do like permabase 1/4 inch for floors though, light and easy to cut.

Only thing I have never liked about durarock is that the half inch sheets can be flexed, and then they are never the same again. Super soft-- is the 2nd generation like that?
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I had the same problem the last time I used Durrock. I use mostly permabase and score and snap it. I couldn't get it a few jobs ago so I got durrock. It seemed so soft I thought my scorer was going to go all the way through it. Just seemed really soft and crumbly to me. Haven't found any distributors here that carry the Nexgen stuff.
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Unread 10-23-2009, 10:51 PM   #15
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No permabase around here either...

My local HD recently marked durock down to $7.88 a sheet for 1/2". No one else can touch that around here. In fact, for some reason, hardi is the "standard" around here, but I prefer durock or wonderboard since those score and snap better.


I'm curious about the next gen stuff too though...
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