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Old 06-07-2018, 05:55 AM   #1
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Liquid nails in a shower

thought you guys could chime in on this. Looked at a full marble slab shower the other day and they installed it with Liquid nails. Thoughts?
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Old 06-07-2018, 06:23 AM   #2
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I haven't done large marble slabs before. However, I lost faith in liquid nails when a backsplash I installed with it just randomly came loose a year after install. I used to install countertops and backsplashes with it.

I find liquid nails too brittle for my liking as it ages. I've switched to urethane based construction adhesives almost exclusively (PL Premium, etc)

That backsplash I reinstalled with 100% silicone and it's strong as hell several years later (repeat customer). I do all countertops with silicone now.
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Old 06-07-2018, 10:37 AM   #3
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Fred, how old was this shower? I would be afraid of the oils soaking in and making it's way to the surface. I'm no expert on that and I doubt it would be a problem with all types of stone but could be with some.
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Old 06-07-2018, 12:57 PM   #4
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Im this shower is in Fla? Location
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Old 06-07-2018, 03:22 PM   #5
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Slabs should have been installed with mortar. I know this would technically be wrong but when I was a helper when we installed slabs we would back butter the slab and the wall. Then we would put a bunch of blobs of mortar on the wall and then beat the slab in until it was plumb and level.
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Old 06-07-2018, 03:43 PM   #6
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No shower is in SC and it is starting to bleed through
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Old 06-07-2018, 03:46 PM   #7
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LN has product Marble and Granite adhesive, not recommended for underwater installation.
Regular liquid nail can bleed through, happened to me years ago..... had to rip it out.
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Old 06-07-2018, 05:00 PM   #8
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SC! its spreading lol. Half the state of Fla thinks stone is put in with liquid nails. I lost a job because the HO bought the stair treads in Miami from a friend who said they should be put in with liquid nails because they do it all the time.
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I've torn out one stone slab shower and several cultured marble showers that where adhered with Liquid Nails or something similar. A couple had bled through most had not, but in every case they where held together only by the silicone at the seams, the liquid nails was doing nothing.
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Old 06-11-2018, 02:57 PM   #11
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Karl,

I have seen full slab shower with this method fail, the slabs came unbonded from the wall due to the weight of the stone itself.
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I've had to show fabricators/installers how to use thinset more than once.
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I have seen full slab shower with this method fail, the slabs came unbonded from the wall due to the weight of the stone itself.
A lot of hacks out there leaving a mess are keeping me busy now days.
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