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03-29-2010, 08:45 PM
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if you run your perimeter level you can in fill the triangular shapes high then use the plywood templates to beat these sections down could be tricky,id use the screed rails.
run perimeter level 1 or 2inches off walls lay some dry pack from the corners of walls to corners of drain where you want your sharp angle,tap the screed rails in until they are level with the top of the mud perimeter and level to the top of the drain minus the thickness of your tile,screed remove the rails and fill and final shape where you want the sharp angle
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03-29-2010, 09:30 PM
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I guess I should clarify my question a bit. I understand setting mud screeds for the perimeter (which I do anyway) and then either mud or some other type of screed for the diagonals. What I am having trouble visualizing is how I will level off between the diagonal screeds - since the two diagonals are converging I would need an infinitely adjustable length straight edge...that obviously doesnt exist so I foresee having trouble with leveling the infill. Do I just have to freehand it?
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03-29-2010, 09:34 PM
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Mark Christensen, Tile contractor
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I've always wished I had an infinitely adjustable straight edge.
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03-29-2010, 09:37 PM
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I went to HD and got myself some 2 inch strap aluminum. Just like the stuff they use to make t square for drywall. Since I screed my drypack dry, its like running a bulldozer around. If one piece is too short, I take 2 and place them next to each other, overlapped to the desired length then screed again. I can change the length as needed.
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03-29-2010, 09:57 PM
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Large format tile may present more opportunity for a slip hazard unless the tile surface is sufficiently textured... just sayin.
Sounds like yer a Pro Kyle? Where abouts in NY?
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03-29-2010, 10:35 PM
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kyle youd be surprised but screed from top corner to the bottom corner for the most part youll need only two size edges for the two opposing sides or 4 edges total
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03-30-2010, 09:16 AM
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thanks jason and cabot - I'll try it that way.
Dana - I'm not a pro tiler (more of a remodeler) but I do a good deal of tiling and have come to love using deck mud for most floor jobs, and all shower jobs of course. Due to this great forum I learned of and have switched to Kerdi showers w/ traditional mud floor.
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05-11-2010, 12:56 PM
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does Kerdi-Set actually exist?
It shouldn't be this hard to find something as simple as unsanded thinset!!!
I have been wanting to try to set Kerdi with unsanded - but unsanded thinsets are like unicorns. I CAN special order Surebond from home depot but I hate dealing with those idiots. Who knows if a special order of just a few bags of thinset would even ever show up.
I have read in old threads from 2007-ish that bostik was going make an unsanded called Kerdi-Set. It is not on their website that I can find though. Did they never end up starting production?
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05-11-2010, 01:19 PM
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KerdiSet never actually appeared, to the best of my knowledge, Kyle.
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05-11-2010, 02:33 PM
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What would be the drawback to using pure portland? Aside from voiding any warranty of course...I think I'm gonna try bonding some with it
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05-11-2010, 03:47 PM
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good luck.... Pure portland will get hard before you lift your trowel off the tile. That why you need to soak your tiles back in the day...
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05-11-2010, 03:48 PM
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I would then go to a REAL tile store near you that's a Custom dealer and order it from them.
it will come in on their next truck.
or go to a tile store and get Laticrete 211 powder:
http://www.laticrete.com/distributor...ductid/34.aspx
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I agree with Rick, you would spread it and it would probably dry before
you could get it trowed out.
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05-11-2010, 06:33 PM
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I heard today that Jamo makes an unsanded thinset, but I haven't verified it.
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05-11-2010, 06:35 PM
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where in ny are you we have ditraset in two stores here in albany
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05-11-2010, 07:08 PM
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