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04-26-2013, 05:31 AM
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Location: Chatham, NJ
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weepless flanged aco line drain
I only came to terms with this after i installed it and attached the kerdi... My plumber busts my chops on the "fancy drains and orange stuff" so he couldn't wait to point and ask "how does the water drain over that lip"
sooooo I'm thinking either drill in a series of weeps or install and grout in epoxy to reduce available area for water to sit.
I read in the archives this issue came up before twice.... any updates?
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04-26-2013, 05:57 AM
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my uploads keep failing.... i'm sure you know what it looks like....
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04-26-2013, 06:20 AM
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i'm sure you know what it looks like....
Today 07:31 AM
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You want to drill holes in a linear drain flange?
ACO drain, almost had it spec'ed once, but costs over twice what one of the normal overpriced linear drains costs.
At that price they should have an 800 number, no?
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04-26-2013, 06:26 AM
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If there's a bonding flange, I'd probably drill some holes. If no flange i'd probably tear it out. Lots of drains made by that company.
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04-26-2013, 06:31 AM
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got it... was thinking drill from where the kerdi bonds to the flange, through the 3/8" wall into the drain body...
Last edited by jgleason; 04-26-2013 at 07:25 AM.
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04-26-2013, 07:12 AM
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http://www.quartzbyaco.com/sites/def...e_detail_0.pdf
shows a hot mop, how progressive, lol.
How tall is this lip after the kerdi install? Is the tile supposed to finish to that lip height to meet the drain cover?
PDF shows flat hot mop and pitched thinset, (bang head).
trendy and overpriced, imo. Chuck it and buy a Noble.
http://www.noblecompany.com/Portals/...0PD%200812.pdf
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Last edited by gueuzeman; 04-26-2013 at 07:13 AM.
Reason: removal of excessive "lol-ing", bad syntax.
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04-26-2013, 10:17 AM
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Aco makes trench drains for concrete, they don't understand tile. Defective design, don't use it.
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04-26-2013, 10:57 AM
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I called ako and they assured me that this has been the European approved design for a long time and evaporation should take care of any small amounts of water that should take up any space under the tile. They also said that drilling in WI polls would not only void the warranty but also potentially cause more problems because that lip is a hem, not a solid piece of metal... water could drain out of the system... also wayer could push its way from drain into weep and under tile (although it could drain out after)
I have discused the options with my client and my opinion to change the drains... the cost is not acceptable to her and we found a post from mark using this drain having good results...I will have to stick with this drain and just use the epoxy morter and grout....
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04-26-2013, 01:39 PM
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But according to their website John Whipple says you can use that drain with ANY waterproofing product. So clearly it must be right.
That lip looks to be too thick to meet up with thinset, or epoxy.
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04-26-2013, 07:11 PM
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I thought that I had installed an Aco before but it must have been a different brand.
Tom is right, it's a bad design.
edit: It's come to my attention that drilling weepholes in this drain won't work. I've edited the post lest anyone think this would be a good idea.
Last edited by Tiger Mountain Tile Inc; 04-28-2013 at 11:23 AM.
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04-26-2013, 07:35 PM
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Would it be cheaper to switch to an epoxy grout instead of a new drain?
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04-26-2013, 07:45 PM
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Going to use epoxy morter and epoxy grout.
This build is in a basement, steel studs ensure straight walls
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04-26-2013, 07:46 PM
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ugh.... what the....
nice drain, but not for tile.
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04-26-2013, 07:49 PM
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LT
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Quote:
This build is in a basement, steel studs ensure straight walls
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What Dana said
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04-26-2013, 08:46 PM
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Atleast its a good looking drain
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