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Unread 04-27-2012, 09:16 PM   #1
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Shot-blasting concrete and sealing??

As some of you may already know, I also am a distillation operator at an ethanol plant besides doing tile. Well, our 15 yr old vct flooring is shot throughout the office areas, hallway, breakroom, locker room, control room and bathrooms. Upper management has been exploring options and had me submit a bid for tearout and installing ceramic tile even though they were really leaning towards having it epoxied. That was until they received an outside bid for that. Man, those guys make a killing!!

Anyway, it's been put on a hold for a couple weeks as the bookkeeper and I seem to be the only one's who love tile. So today she calls me and says that they got a bid for having the concrete shot-blasted and then sealed. Sounds like upper management is sold on the idea since it's been their cheapest option thus far. So here's the kicker: these guys were only a $1000 less than my bid. And my bid included the tile!!

So what's this process all about? Seems to me that if I could learn the process, submit a bid for $500 less then theirs, and rent a shot-blast machine that I'd make much more $$ than if I were to tile it.
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Unread 04-27-2012, 10:12 PM   #2
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Probably some type of pourable sealer that is thick and self levels. Urethane?

It's smooth for easy maintenance? Is it slippery?(liability) ADA compliant?

Lov VOC?

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Unread 04-28-2012, 09:20 AM   #3
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How will they address control and expansion joints in the existing slab when they seal it ?
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Unread 05-01-2012, 04:10 PM   #4
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These guys are makin a friggin killing!!

Their bid: $7700
Remove 1800 sq ft of vct, shot-blast concrete, apply sealer. (NO DYES)
Materials-Sealer

My bid: $9000
Remove 1800 sq ft of vct, treat cracks with redguard, set tile, grout.
Materials-tile, redguard, thinset, grout

They're going with the other guys bid cuz it's the cheapest route?
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Unread 05-05-2012, 08:00 AM   #5
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It sounds like they have a darned good gig, but my guess is the demand for their services is pretty much limited to commercial/industrial applications. In your area, being pretty much rural, that prolly means alot of travel and less than steady work. They have to make the $ when they can.

OTOH, they could just be greedy bastards making a killing!
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Unread 05-05-2012, 10:36 AM   #6
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The Concrete Network has lots of info.
Here's a link for shot blasting... http://www.concretenetwork.com/searc...ting&x=36&y=15

If you put "sealers" into their search you'll get enough info to keep you busy for awhile. I think they have a forum too...

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Unread 05-06-2012, 04:39 AM   #7
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Welcome to the life of a tile contractor.Now go lower your bid to 7000 and kick yourself while you do the tile.
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Unread 05-06-2012, 12:43 PM   #8
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Yikes, tearout, shot blast, materials and install for $5/sf?
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Unread 05-06-2012, 01:49 PM   #9
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Best to walk away and let them do the job. Keeps you in cahoots with your employer and if the job fails then it just puts you at a higher level. No way would I do it for a measly 9 grand for everything.....

BTW isnt South Dakota fairing the best during the economical crisis? Why bid so low?
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Unread 05-06-2012, 02:01 PM   #10
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Chad,
Your higher ups were stupid not to go with your bid. I couldnt provide just the materials for $9K. What a deal they were getting.
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Unread 05-06-2012, 03:22 PM   #11
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I got a great deal on some Interceramic Metallica tile for $1.59/sq ft, plus I picked up a pallet of Ultraflex 2 for a nice price a lil while ago and have just about enough left to complete the job. The reason I really wanted it is cuz I wanted the opportunity to let my helper get some square footage under his belt. I'd really like to get to the point of feeling comfortable with him setting tile. I just can't seem to get myself to the point of giving him a chance when doing residential. Plus i just really wanted tile in my place of employment!

Yeah Tracy, we are fairing pretty well economically over here. In comparison I'm doing a residential basement right now approx 850 sq ft plus a corner shower w/ a pre-fabbed base and tub deck/face/backsplash for about the same price. And that doesn't include any tile
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