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Unread 02-27-2009, 01:35 PM   #31
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Mike, please keep all your project questions here where I've combined a half-dozen threads. Helps folks see what you're working on and what's been previously axed and answered.

Not familiar with that particular niche, but generally following manufacturer's instructions is a good thing.

In general it's not possible, or at least not effective, to try to keep the moisture barrier behind a pre-fab niche intact. We generally recommend cutting the moisture barrier around the niche and then using a bonded waterproofing membrane of some sort around the niche area half a foot and above it to the shower head line or thereabouts to make up for having defeated the barrier behind.

My opinion; worth price charged.
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Unread 02-27-2009, 06:51 PM   #32
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The instructions say to "caulk cross bracing studs using Latex Polymer Liquid Waterproof Membrane".

I don't know exactly what product to use. Can somebody recommend a product that I could pick up at Home Depot or Lowes? It has to be a good adhesive (so it doesn't fall of the wall) and also waterproof.

Anything from PL? I really like their stuff.
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Unread 02-27-2009, 07:38 PM   #33
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Mike,

Check to see if RedGard is a "Latex Polymer Liquid Waterproof Membrane". RedGard is made by Custom Building Products and available at Home Depot.

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Unread 02-28-2009, 12:31 AM   #34
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I looked at the data sheet and noted under the Limitations section is the fact that it is not to be used as an adhesive. That rules it out as a choice since the product must permanently stick the niche to the studs.

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http://www.custombuildingproducts.co...er=arc&lang=en

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Unread 02-28-2009, 01:10 PM   #35
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Also looking for suggestions on the best way to tile over the niche.

With one tile in the back and a bullnose sitting on the ledge and overhanging by a tile thickness, I have a 1/2" - 9/16" gap between the back of the bullnose and the tile in back. What should I do about that?

It doesn't seem like I should just grout that, but my tiles aren't big enough to fill it without piecing some in. That seems like it would look like crap.





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Id glue two tiles to the back wall of the niche and rip the bullnose down to fit.
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Unread 02-28-2009, 02:13 PM   #37
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Ok, that sounds like an option.

However, I'd like to keep as much of the depth as I can. Some of todays shampoo bottles are huge!

Would it be weird to piece in a "filler" sized piece of tile? Should I just grout that 1/2" or is that a no no?
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Mike, if that's a throug-body porcelain type tile, as it appears, why not make a wider piece for that niche bottom?
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Unread 02-28-2009, 02:22 PM   #39
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Mike, if that's a throug-body porcelain type tile, as it appears, why not make a wider piece for that niche bottom?
I'm not quite up on the tile terminology. Would that mean taking one of my 12"x12" tiles and just cutting the appropriate size for the bottom? Skip the bullnose altogether?

How would I finish the edge? I would want that to hang over the tile on the wall rather than have the wall tile come up higher and the niche bottom butt up to it. That would leave a joint for water to work its way into.
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Hi Mike,

Put the bullnose on the face like a picture frame. Miter the corners. Use tile cuts inside.
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If the color of the tile goes all the way through, meaning is the same color when cut, you can cut your tile to size and make a bullnose yourself. Just takes a couple of diamond pads and alittle practice. all these are throughbody ccut to size.
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Jeremy, is that niche leaning to the right or is it the wine at dinner I just had?
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If the color of the tile goes all the way through, meaning is the same color when cut, you can cut your tile to size and make a bullnose yourself. Just takes a couple of diamond pads and alittle practice. all these are throughbody ccut to size.
I really like that idea.

Do I have to cut a tile in order to find out or should I be able to know by looking at it? The bottom of the tile is gray in color and pretty close to the glazing color.

What are the diamond pads? Something available at HD or more pro type item? Just use them to bevel the edge and take the sharpness off?

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Still looking for an idea on what adhesive to use for securing the niche to the studs. Called FinPan but they were closed for the weekend as expected.

The niche is styrofoam with some coating on it so I would say it has to be styrofoam friendly adhesive. Don't want the niche melting in front of my eyes.
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Richie, Its just an illusion, im certin its level/plumb.

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