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Unread 11-05-2012, 08:48 AM   #31
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Unread 11-06-2012, 10:50 PM   #32
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I do very little work for GC's but so far I haven't given them any break.

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Unread 11-06-2012, 11:33 PM   #33
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Just about everything we do is for GC's, and what we do directly for individuals we don't necessarily charge anything extra, just plan to make money as needed and the price may be higher than what we would typically charge a GC for square footage because of the extra time and care required in a home.

With GC's, we frequently are invited to bid a job with several GC's who are going after the same job. For instance, there's a "Bob's Burger Joint" and Swifty Construction, Hands-On Construction, and Foundational Construction are all bidding to get the job. They all have a set of prints, they all make them available to subs to get some preliminary pricing so that they can submit a bid to "Bob". Most of the time we just send the same price out to each of the GC's, but if we know that Willy is going to be the superintendent for Swifty (Willy who is hard to get along with, doesn't have the other trades pick up their mess, turns a deaf ear to problems you bring to his attention, isn't real compassionate about things like lights and water, cares only about his schedule and not yours...), we may add a little on the bottom for the worries. Maybe Hands-On has been habitually late paying, falling into the dreaded 60-90 day payment list, it's worth our while to get a little extra out of the job if we are going to have to worry about pestering them for payment.

I don't want to be the guy to stop a GC from getting a job because of my number...wait...maybe I do , but I do want to be fairly compensated for the difference in the quality of the experience when working for a GC who is less than helpful to my profit and overall sanity.
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Unread 11-07-2012, 12:14 AM   #34
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Good post Brad.

Here is an example of a typical vacation rental condo job we might be asked to bid. 500 sqft of porcelain and 150 LF of tile base.

For the homeowner we do all the paperwork with the management, chip out the old tile and remove carpet and haul to the dump, disconnect appliances, move furniture, disconnect toilet, provide and deliver tile to the job, haul all our tile debris away, do a full cleaning of the unit, reinstall appliances, toilets, furniture, etc. And by the way we set and grout the tile.

The exact same condo for a GC doing a full remodel-We just set and grout the tile. They do the rest.

So it is not a matter of who we are working for, it is what needs to be included in our bid that affects the price.

I like working for homeowners and GC's. But every homeowner and every GC gets a different price, because every job we do is different. If our price wasn't different it wouldn't be fair.
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Unread 11-08-2012, 07:03 AM   #35
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Good post Brad & Issac.

Both make sense. My way of bidding also.


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Unread 11-08-2012, 07:12 AM   #36
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What Hammy said.
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Unread 11-08-2012, 07:44 AM   #37
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Once upon a time I received a phone call..........

*ring ring*

"Hello, Frankengueuze tile."

"How much?"

"Excuse me?"

"How much a foot, to install tile?"

" I think you have the wrong number, sorry, and have a good day."

*click*

True story. Also, what Hammy said.

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