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Unread 10-31-2008, 09:16 AM   #1
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This weekend I plan to start installing granite tiles on my bathroom floor. This will be my first tiling experience but I have read a up a lot about it and practised on the side. I have a few questions though.

1) What is the best way to make radius cuts into granite tile. The plan right now is to buy an angle grinder and a diamond blade for it.

2) I am renting this (http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/...ctId=100648193) from home depot. I need to make bullnose edges for the border between the shower and drywall. My plan right now is to buy a 8 or 10 inch profiling wheel although I would probably never use it again. Am I missing any other accessories needed for making bullnose edges? Is there a cheaper way?

3) My floor is pretty flat but the problem is that my backerboard screws are not counter sunk. I screwed up a little on that one... pun intended. Its kinda difficult to sink those screws on 1/2 inch cement boards (used 1/2 for height). Now I am pretty confident that thinset should cover it. What is the best strategy to install the tiles given slightly protruding screw heads. Use a 1/2 x 1/2 on the floor and no back butter? Or 1/4 x 1/4 and back butter. By the way I like to say "back butter" ... hmmmmmmm back butter.

4) I'm using marble and granite thinset and 1/16 grout lines so I do understand that I have no margin for error. I have to nail it. Any tips or techniques to ensure that every tile is perfectly level with the one next to it. I will have a many levels and the soft hammer thingy handy.

Responses to any or all of the questions will be very much appreciated.

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Unread 10-31-2008, 10:56 AM   #2
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I put granite up in my kitchen as a backsplash and found it to be no different than ceramic. Only thing is, if you want a nice finished edge you gotta buy granite buffing discs. However, for a floor you probably don't need it.
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Unread 10-31-2008, 12:26 PM   #3
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No tips on the bullnosing but this helps to keep the tiles level
http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?actio...756-34587-6001
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Unread 10-31-2008, 01:47 PM   #4
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Your better off sending the pieces out to a fab shop and let them bullnose and polish them. You will probably have more in tools than the shop would charge you.

Did you also buy your granite from HD? Pretty adventerous for your first gig.

Crash. Putting granite on a backsplash is very easy. Putting granite on a floor, and maintaining flat with no lippage isnt like installing ceramic.
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Unread 10-31-2008, 02:29 PM   #5
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Nope I didn't buy the tiles from HD. I'm installing Kashmir white from MSI tile in NJ. They will bullnose for $6 a tile. I need 16 tiles bullnosed assuming I don't destroy any of them. I figured I can get a profiling wheel for $120 and some granite polishing pads and do it myself. I've seen videos ... looks doable.

THanks for the link kenny. I'll check that out
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Unread 10-31-2008, 02:58 PM   #6
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Save yourself the time and money and let the fab shop do it for you.
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Unread 10-31-2008, 03:31 PM   #7
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Hmmm...

Let them do it...$96

You do it...$120 profile wheel, $200 variable speed grinder, $100 polishing pads, wasted practice pieces, and time.

And just my opinion, but a tile puck assumes a lot about a structures levelness. A floor needs to be flat, not necessarily level. I'm not a fan...
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Unread 10-31-2008, 08:04 PM   #8
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i agree with the others, let the fab shop do the bullnosing.
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Unread 10-31-2008, 08:50 PM   #9
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not to hijack this thread ut how do you use the tile puck? Just run it over 2 tiles to make sure that they are level?
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Unread 11-01-2008, 09:03 AM   #10
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Andrew, I've never used one but I think you just slide it across the joints and it catches any lippage that is there. I just use my fingers myself.
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Unread 11-01-2008, 10:30 AM   #11
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Make sure you drill is not set on the numbered settings. That will limit the power. If you set your drill to the drill setting then it should have no problem countersinking those screws. Make sure you are matching the bit size to the screw size also.
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Unread 11-01-2008, 11:08 AM   #12
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Just slide the tile puck around...if it catches an edge you'll hear it "click" and stumble on a raised edge.
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Unread 11-01-2008, 01:45 PM   #13
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send the granite to get bullnosed.....a cheap bullnosing set will be several hundred like nathan said. Butt the tiles together as you set them, press or beat down into plane and then adjust for spacing.
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Unread 11-18-2008, 08:34 AM   #14
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Grout Bevel

OK now I've finished the floor and grouted it. The grout is brilliant white unsanded grout (haven't sealed it yet) and the joints are 1/16th. Everything looks great until you get on my knees and really inspect the grout joint there's a slight bevel such that the grout doesn't fill the entire joint to the brim. OK so I went around the house and inspected other tiled rooms and I see the same effect. My question is this: if I re-grout on top of the current grout to make it so that the grout is 100% flush with the tile would that hurt anything. The advantage to this is 2 fold. First, dust cannot easily gather in the grout joint, secondly it looks better. Oh, the grout is about a week old now.

So if it wouldn't hurt do I have to wet the current grout so that the new grout can stick to it

disclaimer: I am pretty bad perfectionist that why it took me 3 16-hour days to tile a 40 sq ft floor. I know there's nothing to worry about but if I wouldn't cause any damage I'm fine with gettting it perfect.

PS: Good advice on the bullnosing, I had no chance to do it myself. I don't know what I was thinking. I sent the tiles back and they were done for me. Tile puck also worked amazing but it does make you anal if you weren't going in cos it picks up everything.
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Unread 11-18-2008, 08:20 PM   #15
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If you'd added some within maybe the day, it might have stuck. I don't think you can get that thin of a layer to stick reliably. If you put much of any pressure on your grout sponge during cleanup or have an angle on it, you'll drag some grout out of the joint.
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