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12-06-2015, 10:05 PM
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Registered Muser
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I don't see how linking gun sales to the no fly list would be constitutional. Your second amendment right is dependent on somebody's arbitrary list with murky criteria?
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12-07-2015, 08:16 AM
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#227
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Mudmeister
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Rosanky, Texas
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I agree with Jim.
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12-07-2015, 10:13 AM
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Stone Carver
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: woods of North Texas
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I do too--that was the point of my earlier post.
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12-07-2015, 01:35 PM
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#229
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Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 237
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"No warning shot, no verbal warning.....just swift vigilante justice"
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and one less mugger and who knows what else. Don't Mess With Texas!
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12-07-2015, 03:16 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Celina, Texas
Posts: 389
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No warning shot, no verbal warning.....
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Warning Shot?? Verbal Warning?  I think not....  Mess with any of my stuff or family, that warning shot is headed for center mass followed by the 'real' shot headed for your head....
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12-07-2015, 03:37 PM
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Problems With No-Fly List Show Problems With CAPPS II Airline Profiling System
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Jan Adams and Rebecca Gordon of California, for example, were detained by police at San Francisco International Airport, and told that their names appeared on the secret ""no-fly"" list. The two women - peace activists who publish a newspaper called War Times - were told nothing about why they were on such a list, or how they could get off. The ACLU has filed suit on their behalf to find out how the "no fly" lists were created, how they are being maintained or corrected and, most importantly, how people who are mistakenly included on the list can have their names taken off.
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Mistakes on "No Fly List" Keeping Travelers Grounded
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There are about one million names on the combined government watch list for airline travelers, according to the Public Education Center, a Washington DC-based non-profit group that tracks airline security. However, the problem is that even the government admits that most of those people shouldn't be on the list.
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Dem Rep. Stephen Lynch: 72 DHS Employees on Terror Watch List
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Seventy-two Department of Homeland Security workers are on the U.S. government's terror watch list, according to a Democratic congressman.
In an interview last week with on National Public Radio station WGBH in Boston, Rep. Stephen Lynch said the number of DHS employees on the watch list was uncovered as part of a broader investigation of the Transportation Security Agency.
The probe also uncovered a massive failure of the TSA's screening process and resulted in the resignation of TSA Director Melvin Carraway in June.
"Back in August, we did an investigation — the inspector General did — of the Department of Homeland Security, and they had 72 individuals that were on the terrorist watch list that were actually working at the Department of Homeland Security," Lynch told Boston Public Radio hosts Jim Braude and Margery Eagan.
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12-07-2015, 05:56 PM
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Retired cabinet maker/remodeler
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Three Rivers, Oregon
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Originally Posted by Maniac
and one less mugger and who knows what else. Don't Mess With Texas!
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Originally Posted by 04Rdking
Warning Shot?? Verbal Warning? I think not.... Mess with any of my stuff or family, that warning shot is headed for center mass followed by the 'real' shot headed for your head....
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Aw snap, that's right I forgot.....Texas is that state where it's legal to murder teenagers for stealing hubcaps.
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12-07-2015, 06:08 PM
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Cain
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Atlanta
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Less hubcaps stolen that way.
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12-07-2015, 06:19 PM
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Texas Tile Contractor
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Beaumont, Texas
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I posted this and was told by the Mods that it was "Too inflammatory."
OK, so I'll take out the bit about the history of Mohammed. You can read about it elsewhere.
OK. Time to just cut through the crap, through the "Guns, "love them or not-type" thread here. Point is, while WE may not be at war with ISIS, Isis is at war with us. They hate us, they want to kill us and anyone who does not bow down to to their Prophet." As seen in recent events, they are HERE through "immigration" of the "women & children" (interestingly enough, almost all have beards and are 17 to 27 year olds. Daily, we have these muslim malcontents murdering Americans, building IUD's and more.
Do you think Obama is going to stop it? Give me a break. By his inaction, by his refusal to even NAME the threat, he allows it. Daily, we see Police Chiefs in many cities encouraging people to speak up when they see something out-of-place. We see them encouraging citizens to arm themselves, to get CCW's and take training. In an "Active Shooter" situation, police help is typically 10 or more minutes away...enough time to murder dozens of citizens, where possibly ONE armed citizen might very well have stopped the carnage. ONE!
But oh no, citizens with armament is a threat, says Barry and the usual suspects....so I guess the advice is to either beg for our lives or die on our knees.
Well, not me. If I go out, I'm taking some of them with me...and I'm not going easy. I hasten to add that I never go armed to ANY jobsite. Concerts, malls, public events....that's a different story.
http://www.artofmanliness.com/2015/1...ter-situation/
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“I came, I saw, she conquered."
The original Latin seems to have been garbled.”
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12-07-2015, 06:52 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2009
Location: San Diego
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Originally Posted by Lazarus
I posted this and was told by the Mods that it was "Too inflammatory."
OK, so I'll take out the bit about the history of Mohammed. You can read about it elsewhere.
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Somehow I'm not surprised about inflammatory comments - a while back I recall you were making race related comments on another thread!
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Daily, we have these muslim malcontents murdering Americans, building IUD's and more
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Do you mean in this country? Source and links?
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12-07-2015, 07:51 PM
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Fort Collins, Colorado Tile & Stone Contractor
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Fort Collins, Colorado
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Originally Posted by Laz
But oh no, citizens with armament is a threat
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The terrorist attack in San Bernadino was carried out by "citizens with (legally obtained) armament" Did you miss that part?
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12-07-2015, 10:44 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: NYC Staten Island
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They might have been purchased legally but they weren't "legal weapons"
http://www.wsj.com/articles/rifles-u...law-1449201057
The bottom line is this: the weapons are out there, both legal and illegal. Passing anti-gun laws just takes the guns away from law abiding citizens. Or makes them into criminals. NYC is about the most anti-gun place I've ever seen, and yet I know several people that sell illegal guns for a price. To get a legal permit to have a handgun costs thousands of dollars and takes years to get. Just having a bullet in your possession without a permit is a crime. So outlawing guns still doesn't stop gun violence. The bad guys still have guns. Taking away guns from the citizens won't stop that. I would love to say I have the answer but I don't believe there is an answer. If you stopped producing weapons and ammunition tomorrow, eventually they would run out of parts in 100+ years but by then, mankind will have come up with a new way to reduce the herd. Light sabers, phasers, etc. Either that or we will regress back to spears and knives. When some lunatic finally snaps, he/she doesn't need a gun, look how many times they've just run over people with their cars. You get a nice 4X4 truck into a crowd of people, you will make those San Bernardino shooters look like amateurs.
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12-08-2015, 12:44 AM
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Texas Tile Contractor
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Beaumont, Texas
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Raven~A "source or links" to slaughtering American citizens and building IUD's? Seriously? How about a little place called San Bernardino?
I think if you look around a bit, there was a news story about it somewhere..
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Laz...
“I came, I saw, she conquered."
The original Latin seems to have been garbled.”
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12-08-2015, 01:22 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2009
Location: San Diego
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Laz - let me remind you of what you posted -
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Daily, we have these muslim malcontents murdering Americans,
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So do tell me where in this country are muslims mudering Americans daily?
Also one of the shooters was an American citizen so it is possible to be a Muslim and an American. They are not mutually exclusive.
So yes please provide links to these daily murders.
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12-08-2015, 05:42 AM
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Not So Senior Contributor
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Rochester NY
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I'm sure many American woman are outraged at the fact that Muslim Americans and or ISIS are building IUD's. Now, if they have come up with a IUD that's a IED we really got problems. Gives a whole new meaning to the term "Fire Crotch".
But be careful Laz, both can still go off in your face.
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