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Old 07-02-2010, 08:37 PM   #1
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Ardex liquid backerboard

Has anyone had any experience using ardex liquid backerboard? I have never used it, but I have a situation where the subfloor needs to be leveled, and I can't use regular slc due to it needing to be 1/2 inch over the high point. I was a little skeptical about a product that can be poured 1/8 inch thick, and doesn't require metal lath, but it seems to be the only product that qualifies, so I bought 20 bags, and I even bought the mixing drum, along with a spreader. It was expensive, so I hope it does the job.
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Old 07-03-2010, 02:02 AM   #2
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Levi.......

Sounds like you got yourself a job there.

I'm gonna' move your question on over to the "Professional Hangout" and leave a link to it here in the "Advice Board".

You may get better response this way.
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Old 07-03-2010, 04:15 AM   #3
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I've never heard of Ardex "liquid backerboard",but I have heard of Ardex feather finish products.

I've used Ardex feather finish products,going from zero to say 1/2",and I'm extremely confident in the results and longterm ability of the product!

Like you stated,it is expensive,but well worth it when locked into height restrictions.
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Old 07-03-2010, 05:30 AM   #4
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I use ardex thinset, they make really good stuff.
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Old 07-03-2010, 08:19 AM   #5
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Have heard of it but not used the liquid backer. i have used thier gs-4 on several jobs it can be poured over plywood with no lathe also just prime and go. All ardex products i've used are very good. I like the 8+9 waterproofing alot also.let us know how this liquid backer works.
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Old 07-03-2010, 08:24 AM   #6
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hi Levi,
I'm not familiar with the product either. Where do you buy your Ardex through? Don Richards is their local rep, last I knew. If you have any issues or need to consult his number is (###-###-####)
Best of luck and please let us know your impressions of it.
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Old 08-02-2010, 09:46 PM   #7
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I just heard from Don Richards today and the contact phone number I had for him is out-of-date. The following is his contact information in case anyone has questions about Ardex products. I've invited Richard to respond to related questions and I hope to see him posting soon.

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Old 08-03-2010, 06:48 AM   #8
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I bought it at the cronin company out in kent. They seem to be the only people who actualloy stock it around here. I am getting ready to pour soon.
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Old 08-03-2010, 07:28 AM   #9
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Hi Levi,
When I spoke with Don he indicated that their products has about 20 minutes longer working time, which I think makes it comparable to the "LevelQuik ES". Please let us know your impressions?
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I just finished 2 pours using ardex. It seems to be a good product. It seems a little bit more liquid than other slc's that I have used in the past. I mixed 1 bag at a time in the mixing drum made by ardex. I didnt have to rush at all. I bought an adjustable spreader, but I ended up using a squeege because I poured over electric in floor heating cables. The squeege was just fine. I wouldn't waste the money on the spreader. The stuff flows so nice that you dont need it. It was workable for at least 30 minutes, and I could walk on it in a couple of hours.
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Old 08-13-2010, 05:33 PM   #11
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I am assuming that most people lay tile directly over slc's, or liquid backerboard, but I was planning on putting a anti fracture membrane over it just to be safe. I bought some "bostik gold plus" the other day when I was in a hurry, and I have never used it before. It appears to be somewhat like redgard, but a little thicker. No fabric required. I was reading the instructions, and noticed that it was not to be used over gypsum type cement floors. But it is ok for just about everything else. I don't know if ardex is full of gypsum, but I would like to use something as a crack isolation membrane. I will call the tech dept at ardex monday, but do most of you just set tile right on top of slc? I don't have a ton of experience with this. Thank's
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Old 08-13-2010, 05:36 PM   #12
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Pretty sure the Ardex product is not gypsum based but is Portland Cement Based. Go online and look up their spec sheet or MSDS. It should tell you.

I would think you should be fine installing the membrane over the slc.
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a little late but ardex 8+9 is some good stuff and dries real fast.
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I hope your experience with liquid backer board has been positive. Liquid backer board has a longer working time and more yeild per bag then any other Ardex self leveler including GS4 but GS4 has a higher psi both contain gypsum and should only be used above grade. Ardex has other self leveling products that are portland cement. 8+9 is a waterproofing and crack isolation product that is very compatible is easy to use and is inexpensive.
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Welcome aboard, Don.

If you're an Ardex guy we'd like to know. You seem to know a lot about the products. Give us a little background, will ya?
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