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Old 07-12-2012, 10:18 PM   #1
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Tornado Leveling System

I received an email about this system today. You guys that use these things, what do you think?

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It looks like Midwest Trade tools has them.
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Old 07-12-2012, 11:05 PM   #2
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I can see a few down sides to the huge ring and needing two hands to install.

LASH is still better and simpler.
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Still too much wear on my fingertips. I like my gun, thankyouverymuchsir.
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Old 07-13-2012, 07:29 AM   #4
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What I see is that the installer forgot ( or just doesn't ) Back-butter the tile.
The two handed piece to this type of "leveler" would be a negative.
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Old 07-13-2012, 07:51 AM   #5
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He didn't back butter because it was strictly a marketing video, and they were trying to keep it as short as possible. I've seen some comments that people have made about the "two handed" operation being a negative, but they don't explain why they think it's a negative. I am the one who tested this system, and I think it is outstanding. I myself would choose this over RLS any day, and although I am a Tuscan fan, the Tornado is much less expensive.

It does not take much force at all to twist the ring, and since there is no mechanical tool involved, you don't have to worry about the base breaking prematurely. This in turn makes it so you don't have to soak the bases.

Also, if anyone has taken a look at the photos on tiletools.com, you will see that it's also unique in the way that if you are using it with a smaller tile (12, 13, 14, 16), you have the ability to use just one base and ring at the intersection of all 4 tiles.
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I'd be happy to give some samples a test drive.

Just looked at the price its pretty good. TLS = $1.06 per cap and 6 cents per strap while LASH is 10 cents per T and 10 cents for each wedge. Tornado rings are 2.6 cents each with the bases at 1.2 cents as best I can tell.
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Old 07-13-2012, 08:55 AM   #7
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You're on the list Paul! We should have it here in about a month.
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That's great. I like the LASH due to its simplicity and this system looks straight forward as well.

I'm looking forward to the samples.
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Steve, didn't you show us some pics of a floor you did utilizing this system while it was still in the testing phase? Coulda swore you did

No need to soak straps, no special installation tool required, can be used at corners, less money. Sounds like a winner to me!!!
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I would also be interested in the testing
This looks like a very useful system
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I've never used any leveling system.

You need more testers let me know.
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Old 07-13-2012, 09:59 AM   #12
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Seems like an ok system but I think your fingers would be hurting quite a bit after a long day. Especially with bigger/heavier tiles. I like the fact that with my Tuscan gun, it take some of the work out of it.

I remember doing a job with the Lash system before I really knew about the Tuscan system and my fingers were killing me by the end of the day. That was the last time I ever used that system.

I will say that the pricing looks pretty attractive though. I think we need some real world testing and experience.
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The Tornado System will be a great option to the TLS system. While both have their advantages, the Tornado system excels in its simplicity, it's cost (or lack there of), and the fact it WORKS! In response to the oversized rings, and to the "wear on your fingers", that's why the Rings are oversized, to prevent wear and tear on your fingers by being larger, they provide more torque. Also, as Steve said, there will be some applications where only ONE base and ring set will be needed on the corner of 4 tiles. In one month, we'll know for sure, but based on the feedback we got from contractors using this system during our manufacturing process, this system is going to be a winner.
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they could probably make some type of socket that would fit over the blue caps with a short t-handle or a big plastic box wrench. Looks like a decent system, if it's cheap enough, would certainly be worth a try.
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Old 07-13-2012, 10:44 AM   #15
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I've been avoiding making a thread for new leveling systems but now that there is one I'll add my 2 cents.

We have been getting so many manufacturers coming to us with their systems lately and most of them are modeled after the TLS. Even Rubi has gotten into the game with theirs.

I can see how installers may like having the free hand since the TLS uses the downforce and this would require a second hand to prevent the strap from twisting under the tile.

I'm looking forward to hearing installer reviews!
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