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Old 06-04-2012, 09:42 AM   #1
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Mapei Aquadefense vs. Laticrete Hydroban

Any thoughts on one product versus the other? They obviously seem to be similar products, but Laticrete says no fabric needs to be used, whereas Mapei says it's "optional". One of the main reasons for asking is because the difference in price is huge. I don't want to skimp on quality in any way, but I can get a 5 gallon unit of Aquadefense for $200, whereas the 5 gallon unit of Hydroban would cost $400.
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Old 06-04-2012, 10:02 AM   #2
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Havent had the opportunity to use hydroban yet, so I don't have an answer there.
I've used aquadefense with and without the fabric. The fabric was pretty cheap and easy to use, so I'll likely use it in all my corners.

5gal Aquad for $200? If i could get it for that price i'd buy some right now...
I think I payed $400 for my last pail.
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Old 06-04-2012, 11:26 AM   #3
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Yeah, pricing through my local Menard's including free delivery.
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Old 06-04-2012, 10:11 PM   #4
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Casey - Online, I've found 5 gal. Hydroban for $300-$320, with free shipping
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Old 06-04-2012, 11:57 PM   #5
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Same goop, different color imo. I have equal confidence in both products and have done lots of showers with both. Aqua d runs me 230 and hydroban 260-270. I use fabric on the floor to wall transitions with both.
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Old 06-05-2012, 09:53 AM   #6
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Been using aqua d almost exclusively for a year now, good stuff, I only use the fabric at the floor corners and drain.
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Old 06-05-2012, 12:10 PM   #7
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I like them both, Aqua D is too dark makes it difficult for pencil marks
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$ 270 right here: http://www.stonetooling.com/Laticret...p/40.91710.htm
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$ 270 right here
somehow that converts to about $270,000.00 by the time it gets to my location.

Shipping+tax+duty+more tax +more shipping+more tax
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Old 06-05-2012, 07:31 PM   #10
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laticreate is it really safe whit out a mesh ? i know they saw you can but what is you guys thought?
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Old 06-05-2012, 08:45 PM   #11
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I have done over 60 liquid applied membrane showers since 2010.

A half dozen of the were Aqua-D.

I have had two failures with Aqua-D and currently involved with a legal dispute with Mapei.

I will dedicate a thread with many pics for this soon.In the meantime....comparison?
Not fair to compare Hydroban to a product in a lower class.
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Old 06-05-2012, 10:33 PM   #12
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I use aquadefense for shower walls and kerdi for the pans. I have seen AquaD. with minute cracks in it in a concrete antifracture application, so I always use the fabric in the corners. In the corners I do a primer coat, then another coat with the fabric pressed into it immediately and saturated, then another coat over that. Because AquaD. dries so quickly all three coats go on within an hour or so. I sometimes use AquaD. for a shower pan over unocupied spaces (like basement slabs), but find I have to use a lot to make it work even on a steel troweled mortar bed.
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Thanks for the input, guys.

To LT, not sure if you can speak to it due to legal stuff, but can you say a little about what part of the installs failed? Thanks again...
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I am going to guess it was a failure at the drain.

I've used both.

Mapei is much cheaper and more readily available, hydroban makes me feel better about the installation though.

Plus Laticrete is a lot better at customer service.
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Old 06-06-2012, 08:24 PM   #15
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I use a ton of Aqua D, and a little bit of Hydroban when I am on a job in a city that I can buy it. I love them both. I hated the color of Aqua D so much at first, I think my rep finally had heard enough of my b complaining and he sent me over 50 Mapei red wax carpenters pencils. You can definitely see those lines great on aqua D. Both are great products though, and I feel 100% confident with either of them, on my pans also.
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