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Unread 01-18-2010, 09:54 PM   #1
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Local inspectors banned kerdi? Do I have recourse?

Apparently, the local inspectors will not approve Kerdi showers. This is unfortunate as I was planning on going Kerdi for my new construction. I never figured I would run into this issue...

Anyhow, is there any documentation I can submit to the inspectors that will get me a pass on using this sytem, or it is truly non-compliant, and I am out of luck?
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Unread 01-18-2010, 10:01 PM   #2
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Technically Kerdi is "not legal" in a few places I do kerdi showers. Before the start of every job I make sure to speak with the plumber or the plumbing inspector to get it passed. Normally after a short demonstration, complete with product samples, the DVD, pictures, and telling them its been around for 20 years, the inspectors let it go through. Honey works far better than sticks in this situation.
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Unread 01-18-2010, 10:06 PM   #3
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Thanks Paul. I'll see if I can beat them into submission, errrr I mean sweet talk them into it
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Here's a useful Liberry link.
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Unread 01-18-2010, 10:13 PM   #5
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product samples, dvd, box of dounts, and pictures....
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Unread 01-18-2010, 10:32 PM   #6
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If all the 'honey' with the inspectors fails, submit to their boss in writing. You can typically appeal to local code board as well. The boards are there to hear appeals to these types of administrative decisions.

There's no good reason for denial after all these years.
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Unread 01-18-2010, 10:38 PM   #7
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Call the folks at Schluter, Adam. 800-472-4588. We got no eye-dee where you are, but the Schluter folks deal with this issue alla time and will know if there's a way to get you a green tag in your area.

But generally, your local compliance jurisdiction is not required to approve anything that not in whatever national standards they have adopted and are currently using. And for a lot of places that can be as old as 2003 code. Or even older.

It's a PITA for sure and all you can do is challenge the denial through your local system. Lotta times that will work and you can get a one-time variance even if you can't get them to accept the method officially.

My opinion; worth price charged.

Like Dana done already said.
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Unread 01-18-2010, 10:39 PM   #8
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Honey works far better than sticks in this situation.
Take this to heart when dealing with inspector types and city employees. Being right won't save you if they get a bug up their backsides. It can just cripple a project if you don't manage those relationships well.
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Unread 01-18-2010, 10:56 PM   #9
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Hi Adam,

Did you show the inspector anything, or did you just ask generically about using Kerdi in your shower?

It's been my experience that plumbing inspectors are completely unaware that the product even exists, so they initially say no. But it's also been my experience that when they see the UPC product listings, they're satisfied.
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When I did my shower the city inspector had never heard of Kerdi and was wondering why I wasn't having my shower hot mopped with tar. I showed him the UPC certs and he didn't seem to have a problem with it after he saw them.
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Unread 01-18-2010, 11:38 PM   #12
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Did you mean to say "why I wasn't having my shower hot mopped?"

So Cal is best known for hot mop & about the last place on earth that still does it anymore.

Inspectors are like parking meter attendants.........soooooo easy to hate!
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Unread 01-18-2010, 11:43 PM   #13
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I did indeed! (and have changed it) Thanks, Randy!
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Unread 01-19-2010, 06:47 AM   #14
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Adam where are you located at ?
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I have had lots of issues with this here in Utah. One particular city would not pass my kerdi shower after trying all of that stuff. Funny though, the next house I did the plumbers had installed a pan liner with no preslope and there was a "pass" stamp on the paper.
Salt Lake City will not pass a liquid membrane pan either, nor will most cities out here. Anyone from my neck of the woods had any luck with this. Dunesrider?
I have a new home coming up in SLC and want to try a hydroban pan but don't think they'll pass it.
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