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Unread 09-07-2019, 10:05 PM   #16
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My above posting shows a bar I did using Ocean Side 1" glass,
we cut 12" x 12" sheets into 1" strips.Oh the fun we had on this one.
Bar frame was prefabbed plywood made by some cabinet shop.
We cover it wire mesh and mud and glass.
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@thuffner3

Thank you for that description of your process. if the thinset is white and the grout is, say, gray, won't there be bleeding of materials / color exchange between the two since they'll both be wet?

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Unread 09-08-2019, 12:11 AM   #18
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Flatting your thinset ridges, and using a stiff grout mix will certainly
minimize this.
As long as the depth of your deco strip is proper, and your materials are mixed to
a firm consistency you should be fine, You will realize any bleed as soon as you start cleaning the grout after you remove the paper.
Problem area might be along the edge where there might be build up.

Mix your materials by hand with a margin trowel, take you time.
You'll be fine.
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If you set those glass tile with a grey grout, the whole look will change. With transparent glass tile, even the grout when used over white thinset will alter the look. You won't know which you prefer until you make a mockup.
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I"m going to do a mockup this evening

The grout chosen was "misty gray"; bag is bostik

This is the installation guide for the tile

http://lunadabaytile.com/PDF/LBT_installation_glass.pdf

Very interesting is that the only bostik brand for thinset listed is "dry only". I'm pretty sure the tile shop sold the GC Bostik for this installation. Is it common to do the ceramic field tiles w/ one thinset and the glass with another? I would think so...

I have an email into the manufacturer to inquire re: grout as setting material.
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If you set those glass tile with a grey grout, the whole look will change. With transparent glass tile, even the grout when used over white thinset will alter the look. You won't know which you prefer until you make a mockup.


Would one do gray in the white field tiles then white with the glass? I assume not but thought i should ask.
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Unread 09-08-2019, 08:08 PM   #22
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Paper faced glass mosaic installation - some questions

my mockups. Glass tile only.

Gray grout is the pre-grout method. I totally forgot to knock the ridges down. Duh. Too many things going on at once.

Other one is set per manufacturer instructions.





What is clear is the first mock was in wasaaaay too much thinset which I am assuming he was doing due to the variation in material thickness - make it up in thinset, I suppose. I found knocking mine down resulted in just barely filling the gaps, if that makes sense. I did dab some thinset in all the indentations on the back.

No grout in the other one but wife already prefers it but likes the gray ok. Now what. No way going to grout everything white...
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In a super fun development I had to tell the GC to not install it and just leave a strip for somebody else to do it (hell, or me). He wasn't happy and I'll believe it when I see it - he seemed resistant to the idea of leaving the strip.

Questioning the methods of the professional - who is a freaking artist in nearly everything he does - feels awful. Heck, I may actually be wrong. But I couldn't let him install it the way he wanted to. I had no choice.

So I may be back to ask how to raise the bed slightly to get flat with he field tile or we may just pay somebody to do our kitchen backsplash (old project we never finished) and this at the same time.

Now we get to do the rest of the project (not a ton left) all awkward and stuff. Ugh.

Thanks for all the help folks.
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Hi Matt. Did you lose your house in the Camp fire?
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Hi Jerry

No, we did not. We live in Chico proper and were not directly impacted. I was part of the initial mental health response and it was pretty intense. This community has a long way to go...
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I'm at the point where I'm going to dive into this and need some guidance on screeding to the correct level and how to do the niche. Should I start a new thread or post specific questions and pics here?

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Unread 09-29-2019, 05:40 AM   #27
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Continue to post in this thread, Matt, keeps all the history in on place for context. Go a head and post some photos so we can see where you are, folks can then offer guidance.
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Paper faced glass mosaic installation - some questions

Ok. Here goes.

This is where we are...




Shower tile thickness is .25.

Current depth we need to get to appears to be 3/8”? Does that sound right?

The depth of our mosaic is 3/16”. An earlier post talked about floating the required thickness. I of course don’t know how to do that method-wise nor to get the right thickness. So....

(1) how do I assure I get the proper thickness and minimize excess thinset coming through the joints? When I did my test run using the proper 1/4 x 3/16 trowel, the excess thinset was nonexistent.

(2) after getting proper depth, how does the niche work? I assume field tile around the perimeter, but what if the edges? Quarter round? Where do I stop the mosaics?

Here?




(3). In the back of the niche, do the field tiles butt up to the mosaics or slide underneath? Basically, do we leave a gap for the field tiles?

I’ve laid tile before, but nothing very complicated. I’m fine if I’m out of my depth and I need to get a pro. My GC wants us to choose something else but we bought this stuff already and it was expensive.

Thanks for the assistance. I’m sure the methods spelled out here will help me decide if it’s something I'm able to do.
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You can always put a layer of Kirdy band or Kirdy in the area.
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Unread 09-29-2019, 06:59 PM   #30
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You only need to build out about 1/8. That will give you 1/16 of thinset when you set your tiles. I buy a cheap plastic putty knife that's wider than the span and put a 1/8 notch on each end. You can use a filler for that but I would use thinset. Let it set up and rub it down with a rub stone. Check the depth with the putty knife in case you need to fill it again. You don't want to butter up the glass tiles. I'd use a 1/8 x 1/8 notch to stick the tiles.
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