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Unread 08-01-2002, 12:41 PM   #1
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The ceramic tile I like has the following on the label:

Qual - A
Caliber - M
Abrasion - 4
Friction Class Coef - 1
PEI - IV
WA - 6%

Is that good?

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Unread 08-01-2002, 01:08 PM   #2
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what are you using it for
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Unread 08-01-2002, 02:45 PM   #3
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Bud has an article in the Liberry on PEI.

Here's another article from Tile & Stone Assc. of BC. that touches on COF and WA.
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Unread 08-01-2002, 02:48 PM   #4
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Unless you're overseeing the installation of floor tile in the new BankAmerica building downtown Houston, don't even think about going down that road... set it and forget it. MHO.

But what the hell does a handyman know?
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Unread 08-01-2002, 03:09 PM   #5
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"Set it and forget it"???

Not so fast here Sonnie.

What is the application?
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Unread 08-01-2002, 05:01 PM   #6
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Hi Weed,

I'd like to know what you're doing also. There are two factors you've listed that are significant. PEI 4 or IV and WA 6%. Grade four is commercial -- bueno. Water absorption of 6% is good also, depending on what you are doing with it.

Nobody has been able to agree on an acceptable standard for co-efficient of friction (coef), so that's meaningless. If you don't want to slip, get a textured tile.
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Unread 08-01-2002, 08:16 PM   #7
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Did I strike a nerve?!!

This tile is going in the main area of our house - kitchen, family room, breakfast nook, hallway & bath.

This tile is from Home Depot and only $2/sf. The cheap price concerned me so didn't want to make a mistake. Sounds like it's ok though!
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Unread 08-01-2002, 09:25 PM   #8
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$2.00 sf.!!!!
Whats wrong with it?
I am sure you will find out after you install it. Think twice about it....or pay twice for it.....

bottom line is "You get what you pay for"
I would re-think my final decision, Is it worth saving a few bucks and possibly installing a sub-standard material.


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Unread 08-01-2002, 09:58 PM   #9
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Two bucks isn't all that scary, it's the 79 cent stuff that one should be cautious about. Two bucks is possible and it may be that this particular tile is going out as an advertised special just to get people into those isles.

This assumes that what is in the box is 'as advertised'.
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Unread 08-01-2002, 10:35 PM   #10
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Just for fun so you don't have to run all over to find it....



Classifications of Ceramic Tile

P.E.I Wear Ratings from the Porcelain Enamel Institute

Group I: Tiles that are suitable for residential bathrooms with light foot traffic. Generally wall tile products fall into this group. Some wall tiles can be used on the floor. Consult the manufacturer of the tile for their recommended areas of application.

Group II: Tiles that can be used in residential traffic areas, except areas with high traffic, such as in kitchens, foyers, laundry rooms, etc.

Group III: Products that are recommended for all residential installations.

Group IV: Tiles that are suited for all residential and light to medium commercial.

Group V: These tiles can be in heavy traffic areas and are recommended for wet areas where safety is a concern, such as in food service areas, exterior areas, shopping malls and swimming pools just to name a few.



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Unread 08-02-2002, 02:08 AM   #11
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Weed (is that your given name?)

you really need to tell us what you're gonna do with this tile job, I mean we got guys/gals quoting specs that would stand up to force 4 earthq's.

I thought you were just a homeowner looking to make an improvement in you environment????

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Unread 08-02-2002, 05:45 AM   #12
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$2 a foot is probably one of the better quality tiles at Home Depot. With an absorption rate of 6 % it's not as hard or as dense as the porcelains that are so popular nowadays, but it should make a fine tile for general residential use. PEI rating covers only the glaze. A 4 is excellent.
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Unread 08-02-2002, 07:11 AM   #13
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This is for residential use, to be laid over durock. Residents of home are 2 lightweight adults and 2 med size dogs.

I didn't choose it because it was so cheap - it really was the tile that looked best with our cabinets, countertop, brick work and wood floor.

[My given name is Wendy; Weed is a nickname from childhood.]


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Unread 08-02-2002, 10:23 AM   #14
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Montana Weed??

Weed - You aren't by any chance from Montana, are you? I went to high school with a Wendy we called Weed!
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Unread 08-02-2002, 11:11 AM   #15
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sounds like you're gonna be fine. It's good that you found a tile you liked at a very reasonable price.
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