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Unread 08-12-2009, 03:59 PM   #46
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Richie,
They're mixing the 4237 into the grout and using that mixture as the pooky and grout.

ie. it's grout holding the tile to the wall.
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Unread 08-12-2009, 04:05 PM   #47
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Tim,

your paying too much for 254.... sorry for being i get mine for 38 something a bag white
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Unread 08-12-2009, 04:07 PM   #48
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They're mixing the 4237 into the grout and using that mixture as the pooky and grout.
I understand that, just that I never used the same mix for grouting, always came back with the same color grout with 1776.
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Unread 08-12-2009, 04:11 PM   #49
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Richie,
No need. If your using "Latte" grout. Mix 4237 into the Latte, notch the Latte on the wall, fill joints with the same stuff, stick to wall. That's why it's called one step.
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Unread 08-12-2009, 09:51 PM   #50
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One step- puill your paper and fill any voids you have with more of the same you already have mixed. Done.

Richie- watch the video, lol.

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Unread 08-12-2009, 09:52 PM   #51
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Also- Tom- on watching my video again, I guess I didn't need to knock down the ridges as I used a Frankengueuze custom trowel!

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Unread 08-20-2009, 06:57 PM   #52
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I'm going to chime in here. I just completed day two of a glass mosaic backsplash using the One Step Method. While I agree it might be simpler, I find the working time with 1500 and 4237 minimal.

After letting it set up to a point where I can take the paper off, the grout has hardened enough where it isn't hardly workable any longer to smooth out joints.

Maybe I'm a little more finicky about the grout, but I like consistent smooth joints and I can't seem to obtain that with this method??
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Unread 08-21-2009, 10:42 PM   #53
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Smooth, Full, Flush grout goints ....! Yes, Please.

So Joe Sez:

"After letting it set up to a point where I can take the paper off, the grout has hardened enough where it isn't hardly workable any longer to smooth out joints."

And I say ....

Sounds like a simple timing issue .... We DO want smooth, full, flush grout joints with this method...!

Joe ... can we chat ..?

May I call you ..? Would you please PM me with your cell phone # or call me ..? My cell phone number is below.

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Have to agree with Henry about it might be a timing issue, try removing the paper a little sooner and then gently wipe down your walls.

Brian, no time for fishing, get back to work.
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I don't see this method being for a backsplash with all the oulets to cut around. As well as the cabinet shape to deal with. Seems like it would be sweet for nice big open walls. Can't wait to try it out.
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Chad,
Definatly sweet for open walls, and if you have a helper to butter the mosaic for you , you can really move fast and no coming back to grout.
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Unread 08-22-2009, 12:20 PM   #58
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Joe I think you can take the paper off much earlier than you think. If it's wet down enough to where the water has fully penetrated the glue, then the paper will practically fall off the wall. So it's exerting almost no pull-out pressure on your fresh-set pieces if you're careful. You still want lots of time to move them around to adjust the grout lines after you pull the paper.
I then go back just a little later, after it's hardened a little more, and overgrout to smooth it out.

Chad I bet you'll love it for backsplashes with outlets once you get used to the method and have a solid feel for timing & how much to do at once. Honestly I now look forward to paper-faced glass more than mesh-backed.
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Honestly I now look forward to paper-faced glass more than mesh-backed

Got to agree with you Tom, i love the paper faced glass as well.
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So, am I safe to say that once the tile is set I can go ahead and begin wetting the paper and removing? I was setting the tile, waiting maybe 10-15 minutes then beginning the wetting process.

I also noticed that the grout protrudes slightly above the tile surface. I've been leaving it that way as the minute I start to level it out with a sponge it starts to fall apart on me. Even with this, the grout joint surface is very inconsistent-- not smooth.

Possibly all these problems are due to me waiting a bit too long?? Problem is, if you go to quickly, your tile isn't completely set, and there's possible movement. Rubbing lightly doesn't really do the trick.

Maybe it's all a conspiracy, and Laticrete is trying to have me committed!
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