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Unread 12-29-2007, 08:07 AM   #16
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Tia,
Instead of wasting your time doing all that, just cut the piece in half,
use the factory edge out as a finished trim piece, bull nose per say.
I do it and most other installers do this same thing.
it's the best way to terminate an ending of a tumbled marble back splash.

others will agree
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Unread 12-29-2007, 08:55 AM   #17
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Unread 12-29-2007, 08:57 AM   #18
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MANY THANX TO ALL!

especially the last two for including a pic that helps me out a lot!

Oh and TIA = 'thnx in advance' ceramictec....

Hopefully after today Ill be moving onto the floor.....rather than starting a new thread tho, Ill ask them in my original kitchen thread.


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Unread 12-29-2007, 09:15 AM   #19
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Thnx for that tip mctile!

Im hoping to be done with the backsplash today, grout tomorrow or Monday.

But I'd like to get the floor started today as well but I have a few questions:

- the floor has two linoleum floors, the most upper surface is the typical stick on 12x12 tiles, those come off okay but the other floor has to be the original floor, not sure of its material (more like paper than linoleum) but that thing is a pain to pull up. Can I leave that alone???

- I was gonna use 1/4" wonderboard but after reading about this Ditra stuff on here and watching the video Im wondering if that would be a better way to go???

- if I use the ditra I noticed they use some piece for the floor to wall transition, my question is do I need to install that piece where it meets the cabinets?
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Unread 12-29-2007, 09:27 AM   #20
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You really need to strip the floor down to the subfloor as far as possible. Water might help to reemusify(fancy word for make soft again) the glue. Ditra kicks butt. It's also thinner which will help with your transistions. That strip is probably kerdiband. It's used to make the ditra water resistant like a shower pan. If you just want crack suppressian and a good substrate I'm pretty sure you don't need it.
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Unread 12-29-2007, 02:57 PM   #21
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haha on the TIA,
I actually know a girl named TIA so I just thought it was your name....lol
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Unread 12-30-2007, 11:00 AM   #22
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I also did a 6x6 tumbled Travertine job and cut 3/4" slices and butted the
cut side to the wall as a trim, it looked great , like a small ledge.
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Unread 12-30-2007, 11:12 AM   #23
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Wow, very nice Brian.
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Unread 12-30-2007, 11:13 AM   #24
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Ok Ill have to try that Scuttle thnx for the tip.

Im including two pics showing what I have to deal with on this floor project, based on these images can you guys make some recommendations on what underlayment you would go with AND guide me on how to go about taking care of the 5" step down into the dining area???

There's 1/2" PLY beneath the cabinets and appliances, the only problem is at one end of the cabinets due to an uneven floor I had to shim the cabinets almost an inch so it's not quite just a 1/2" sheet of ply there.
**Looking at the pic above showing my stove, you can see that on the right side the countertop is almost an inch taller than the upper surface of the stove, on the left side, that lil cabinet top sits flush....well Im in the middle of raising that cabinet so its level with the rest of the countertop Had to fix that since Im working on the backsplash.**
So Im a lil concerned on how to go about finishing the side cabinet to floor.


This shows the step down to the eating area. I was considering Ditra but now Im not sure if Im better off going with 1/2" wonder or hardibacker board to take up the raised height of the cabinets???
Also, how do I go about finishing off the tile floor at the edge of that step?
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Unread 12-30-2007, 11:30 AM   #25
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Unread 12-30-2007, 11:31 AM   #26
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Yep, nice edge treatment, Brian. Peoples is alla time axin' about how to deal with those very places on their backsplashes.

Maybe you could send large copies of those pichers to Mikey The Liberrian (Mike2) so's he could pewt'em inna photo forum.
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Unread 12-30-2007, 11:34 AM   #27
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sure thing CX,
there the only 2 ways I know of to edge the Tumbled Travertine with the same material you are using.
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I found that cutting with a saw then shaping with a file to the desired profile, worked for me.
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Unread 12-30-2007, 12:01 PM   #29
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There's a number of good examples here from both Richie and Brian. Think I'll create a new thread in the Liberry called "Bullnose Options", then link to this entire thread.

To that end Brian, add a post here with some DIY instructions on creating that half-round/pencil liner type edge. Feel free to add more pictures if you have some.

Here's an open invitation to others as well. If you have another bullnose method or examples to display, this would be a good place to do it.


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Unread 12-30-2007, 12:06 PM   #30
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Frank, I just noticed you had two active threads on this project so I've merged them together. Going forward, as additional questions come one, please add them to this thread.

If you want, we can give it a new name too. Just post that request up and any moderator can change the main title for you.

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