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Unread 02-03-2020, 12:01 PM   #31
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Thanks, Jeff. For the suggestion and confidence boost.
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Unread 02-06-2020, 11:45 PM   #32
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Floor tile going down tomorrow. 6x36 wood plank in a random pattern. Couple questions. The whole right side of the floor will be covered by toilet and vanity, so is it okay to go with a full tile along the left wall, ending with about an 80% tile on the rights side? Assuming that’s okay, can my first row be against the left wall, or do I need to start in the middle?
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Unread 02-07-2020, 06:50 AM   #33
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I would often set a full tile where it's in plain sight, ending with a smaller piece at the opposite wall when it's covered or mostly hidden. I don't think that's an issue at all.

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Unread 02-09-2020, 01:24 PM   #34
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Thanks, Kevin!
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Unread 02-10-2020, 02:17 PM   #35
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Me again! Question about the closet flange. I cut the hole in the underlayment bigger than it needs to be and it's slightly offset so that there's roughly a 3/4" gap between the floor and the edge of the drain pipe (4.5" diameter hole) at the widest point. There's plenty of material for the flange to rest on and for screws to be placed, but it looks like the plastic part of the stainless flange won't be supported on the wide side. Is that okay? It looks like the metal ring sits slightly above the plastic so I'm having trouble imagining how that's going to work.

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Can you set the flange in place and then post another photo from above, Drew?
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Unread 02-11-2020, 08:29 AM   #37
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Can do, Dan. I'll get some shots this evening when I'm back at the house.
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Unread 02-11-2020, 08:26 PM   #38
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I forgot the stainless flange, but the dimensions are the same as this steel one I need to return. Seems like plenty of metal overlap, but the PVC ring that holds the metal ring looks like it sits slightly lower and won’t be supported on the fat side. I’ve never installed a flange before so hopefully I’m worrying about nothing.
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Unread 02-11-2020, 08:47 PM   #39
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So long as the metal flange is fully supported by the wood subfloor, you’re good. Just be 100% certain before you screw it down (after the tile is down/flange above the finished floor) that the mounting slots for the toilet bolts are in the correct position. That means you’ll most likely have to make holes or slots in the tile for the screws to attach the ring to the wood.
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And keep in mind, Drew, that your closet flange does not actually support the toilet or the person on it once properly installed. The toilet will sit on the tile floor.
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I just use a tile cutting drill bit and drill through the tile to screw the closet flange. Easier than cutting all those slots and reduces cracking issues from stress risers in the tile.
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Unread 02-12-2020, 11:17 AM   #42
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Thanks so much, guys! This place is such an amazing resource.
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Unread 02-12-2020, 02:18 PM   #43
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Toilet flanges are designed to be installed on top of the finished flooring, and fastened tightly to the subflooring beneath. A proper drill will go through the tile, but some porcelain laughs at a carbide bit, so you may need a diamond one.

Do yourself a favor and scrap that painted, metal ring flange for one with a stainless steel ring. Suggest you do not use an all-plastic one.

Code many places calls for sealing around the front 3/4's of the toilet. Over tile, this makes it MUCH more stable. But, it's not uncommon to need some shims to keep the toilet from rocking. Personally, I just use some combination of coins rather than plastic shims...one less thing to go out and buy, and generally cheaper. You need to locate where those shims need to go BEFORE you set the toilet down onto the wax seal. The wax is not a spring, so if it rocks one way, compressing the wax, when it rocks back, it can leave a gap.

Don't overtighten the bolts and use your weight to compress the wax which means you likely will need to set it in place twice...once to determine where the shims need to be, and the second time with the wax in place.
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Thanks, Jim. I have a stainless flange, I just didn't have it for the pics.

I'm reusing the toilet, which I know is nice and flat. The wildcard is going to my my tile job under the commode. Thanks for the coin suggestion, I like that.

I tiled the floor as far as I could, but in a rookie mistake, I started at the door side and ran out of room against the opposite wall. I'm being ultra conservative (and quite frankly enjoying a few days off) so waited a few days before I got back on the floor to do my final cuts last night. Gonna lay the rest tonight.

I'm using Mapei Large Tile and Stone mortar, which says 24-48 hours for "light traffic" and to grout. If I lay the tile tonight, how do I determine if it's okay to grout on Friday night? Do a toilet and vanity fall under the category of "light traffic" if I want to start putting stuff back together on Saturday?
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It’s always something. The flange pipe only overlaps the drain pipe by a little under 5/8”. Is that enough of an overlap? Looks like taller flanges with stainless rings are few and far between, at least at big box stores.
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